EP78 - JUST US AGAIN: NOOSA TRAILS, AFL CHAOS & THE HARRY GARSIDE HANGOVER

[00:00] In the beginning, episode 78, Courtney, it feels very weird. Just you and I being here today. We've had a bit of a run and guess. We've had a run and guess and it's been amazing, but I am very excited today to RIP into a whole bunch of running chat that's been going on. We can just get back to talk and shit. Amidst all our guests, we as we record this. Yeah, today you'll be running. Today, as people listen to this, if you listen to it on the Saturday, the day it drops, I

[00:30] will be by now in the early stages of the news of 50K Ultra. Yeah, we're talking about drop Jordan Ryan reached out and said he's just reached, reached out to see on Saturday. He's got a special request. Can I drop the episode early so we can download it before the Ultra? OK. I'm not getting it out early enough for people for their Sunday this Sunday. For the Saturday. Sorry, Saturday runs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'll do that for you, Jordan. So for those that are hearing this earlier than they normally would on a Saturday, you can thank Jordan Ryan for the request. So Jordans racing the 50 as

[01:02] well? Yep. Oh cool. Well, if you see me Jordan, come say g'day. I should just give a really quick shout out to Jackson, who I just met at the T100 Expo. I just went and checked in for obviously. Well, for the 10K on there to be careful, be careful. OK, we'll get to your warnings in a moment. Today it's the Noosa 50K Ultra, Yeah, which I'm running, not because I necessarily want to, although I really do want to. I am genuinely excited about. I love. I've only run up there once before.

[01:32] I really enjoyed it. 50 is is gonna be different. I have to run it so I'm eligible for the Miler. I have to finish. Today is about finishing. Today is about completion and being injury free and and and also testing and seeing where I'm at fitness wise. So you're going up with a mate, Rose, I'm going up with you. Do do you run with him or? I don't know. We haven't figured that out yet. OK. You got 2 1/2 hours in a car to work. We're going to figure that out on the drive up. We are doing a hit and run mission. For those wondering, we are leaving. We will have left early Saturday morning, 3:00 AM departure to

[02:02] get up there for the 7:00 AM start time and then run and then straight back down because I want to get amongst the T100 stuff that's going on today. But I have to finish because if I don't finish, if I fail to finish, knock wood, touch wood, I'm not eligible to run the Miler. So there's actually a little bit of pressure, pressure on today's run, which is why I'm going to be very measured, very controlled. There's not a lot of elevation in this one. It's. 900 / 50 which is which? I mean, compared to what you're going to face.

[02:33] But also compared to what I've been doing, yeah, true. Like I've been knocking out eight hundred 900 / 20 KS. So I'm, I'm comfortable, I feel confident, I feel the body feels really good heading into this weekend. When I add on the 10K on Sunday, this will be my biggest run week ever, right in my life. Well, because you'll have the 50K long run. Because I'll have a 50K long run, 60K racing. So I've got 60K racing over the weekend. I've got 31 K leading into the weekend. It'll be K week. It'll be a 90K week for me which will be my biggest week. Ever I've had I've had a few a few concerned listeners.

[03:05] About my lack of mileage. No, no, no, just just warning like I am. Be very careful on the 10K on the Sunday to back up. You know it's to run the first distance of that. Yep, for a long time. Yep. And you just mentioned your mileage, how quickly you build it up and then to go out on the Sunday and run 10K as well to be very, very, very. Careful I'm going to be thank you dad yeah, thank you to all my other dads and mums out there that are sending similar things I I if for people that are watching oh you just checked in

[03:36] the video I I'm fresh. I'm I'm checking fresh here. I'm sporting the shirt that. When you show me I was, it's what was, what was the brand? This is a Pressia Pressia Pressio. Sorry, Pressio Presio is the is the merch brand for all the T100 triathlon world tour gear. The shirt I'm rolling with, it's nice. Like if this was the quality of of of it is. It is a nice shirt. I looked at it and I went, jeez, good material it. Feels great.

[04:07] I also had a good look through the Expo and how all these big events tend to have special merch that they've made for the event. The other run gear that was available in the Expo, again, equally very nice. This. I actually looked at the singlets and thought I'd I'd happily buy and run in one of these. Yeah. Because I had a few people, a few triathletes say to me, jeez, the entries are dear, but the baggy gets pretty decent. So they give like pretty good merch. Yes, for the job, No, no, no. I was very happy with that quickly. I just want to do a shower spot

[04:38] in it. Take everyone through the goody bag very quickly. If anyone's listening for the first time or just listens, we always put a video up with this too. 617 for anybody wanting to track me going through the run has. Anyone who wants to Heckle Lean. As he runs by, I've got a couple of Australia Fair's, got some stuff in there. Australian Triathlon's got a little pamphlet, actually. Talk about Australia Fair. I've got sorry whoever sent it to me. I've just can't remember that who, but got called out because we were given we really. You shared you wanted to share your codes with everyone? Yeah, apparently by the end they

[05:09] will give him 40% off to go and run. So our code we would say apologies anyone who's listening, we gave, I think it was maybe 10% or something. We can't help that. We can't we it's. Out. It's out of our control, but. Good to see some Red Bull protocol. Yes, two cans of Red Bull in your in your. Pack the tea. I know, I know where that's come from and the team's done very well. There you get a 00 and a full full. Strength. Have we tried? Have I? Made it. I love it. Have I've given you 0? Yeah, I like it, like it a lot. The we've got some sun cream in here. We've got some nice little spray

[05:40] sun cream and some some ultraviolet 50 plus, which is going to be good because it's going to be steamy out there tomorrow. And then we've also got what is this supernatural rapid electrolyte, so an electrolyte sachet. Always like them the way electrolytes are done like that where you can just tip them in done water. That's good. Also on my way through the Expo, the guys from Pillar Performance were in there with a little stand and had a chat with one of their ambassadors. Allie Day.

[06:10] Okay, Allie Day, who's? Weekend is Oh no, next weekend Alby is doing. The Aussies. The Aussies trying to. Back up his Aussie title and that was his last race apparently. We've talked about it. He seemed to have had a few lasts lasts to us. Now I've invited Ali on the podcast, so at some point I want to get Ali in. Ali's response. I was, I'm not a runner. And I think you know what, for a bloke this 110 calling out of goals, Yeah, I was going to say I think we could probably find an excuse to have you on because yeah, Ali's in a Ali is in that

[06:40] conversation alongside Shannon, Eckstein, Hendy, all those guys as one of the greatest surf athletes we've ever seen. So anyway, All in all, did you know what the other thing walking through that Expo and checking in, it reminds me how much I love run events and triathlon Trust, you know, it gave me a little hit. Obviously I didn't get to do Noosa last year. It gave me a little Noosa hit it re and it got me really reignited. It reignited that fire. Harry Garside the other week

[07:11] talked about that feeling of reigniting the fire. It reignited my excitement ahead of Noosa Try later on this year. But today, as we're talking, I will be a nuisance. You'll be a nuisance. Running trucks. C100 on the weekend, we'll be down there around the place. There's lots going on. We'll we'll cover all that next week. But what I do want to cover today is last year we talked about a lot about the Armidale running. Festival so back for the first time. Yes, 39 Kelso out there, you know, doing some great community work, but so we do want to give

[07:43] a couple of wrap UPS. But you know what, one of the best messages I suppose I got from the weekend was one of the fellows out there, Jordan Mcgoo. OK, went out after listening to our pod and talking about Armidale, went out and earned himself some dollars. What do you mean? Yeah, So he's got what's he come in second place in the 10K race on Monday, and then he's gone out and got third in the half marathon as well, taking home 500 good 500 big bucks out of

[08:13] the old regional. Regional out there. They came up when he he drove up from Newcastle. Drove up from Newy. Yeah, I'm just I'm having a look at the photo. Here. Big shout out, Jordan. And he and two PBS. Two BBS, double, double PB, killing it. Good work. Absolutely killing it. Fantastic. The other, I actually want to get my phone up. But the other big call out, all the kind of like kudos we want to get is to a young Max Oxley. Mac Oxley. Oh, Mac. Sorry, yeah, Mac. Same name as my son. Yeah. So he won the half marathon OK

[08:46] by 6 seconds. Thirteen years old. Local 13 and he's run at 1:13. Local. So now I don't know how true this is, so don't throw. Yeah, just leave your comments when we're just talking here. He may have set a world record for his age for the half marathon. In that race, yeah. I mean 113 is quick mate for a 13 year old, frightening for a 13. Year old for a for a 34 year old. I don't want to talk before we you, but they're trying to look into ratifying it.

[09:16] I don't know what you want to do about 13 SO Mac. Max Oxley 113 as a 13 year old. Remember the name? Bloody, that's fantastic. Well don't get through. 1/2 marathon was a 13. What under Ryan for all the work he put in on getting this festival up and running. We, we, we, we had intentions of being a part of it physically, but not achievable for the first year back. But Rhino, well done Jeanette, you've been a big supporter of the pot from early on and it's great to see your running

[09:46] festival you brought back for the community of Armidale. Go so well, it's 100 and 870 entrants in the end showed up. That's 40% of them outside their local council area. Well, that's the big thing out there. Like when we finish our events at Tenterfield, for example, It's all about how many people haven't seen the town who you can bring in lots of good stuff going on. And also want to shout out Holly Webster from Tamworth won the Oh, hang on, no, she didn't win. Yes, at 1:28 in the half and

[10:19] she's a Hoggy Roo. There you go. Really, that's big hitters turned up to that. Well done Ron. Can I quick give a shout out to the Rivers Run Club, Northern Rivers of NSW because I just bumped into as I was leaving the T100 Expo Jackson. Jackson's out there running the T100 10K this Sunday tomorrow and was about to get in his car with his daughter. Noticed me walking past shout out, gave a gave a shout out and said G'day. We had a quick chat. So did you say the Rivers Run club?

[10:49] I think it's called Rivers Run Club down in the Northern Rivers, yeah. So I've got so one of his, obviously one of his mates, Adrian Gorton. OK, send us a pic. They were out having their local group run and they run into no other than Alex Yee. No way. Got a photo right here? No. That's the photo. That's the Rivers Run Club. So they were running the the rail trail. That's that's the same 1. Jackson was talking about it today, so yeah. Jackson, now we've got your photo here. And yeah, they run into now. I ran into Alex Yee this morning.

[11:20] Talk to me. Have you met Alex before? No, OK, no. So when Matt was in here chatting away, I mean Alex completely different. Well, this is what I realised. OK, different generation. How I don't how I don't think, I don't think Alex Yee jumped in and did. So the Brits were down. Give it a bit of context. Yeah, yeah, I went down with my local swim group, tied ducks and that and we were doing a bit of a swim went down. We're trying to get fit for a, you know, challenge thing we're doing.

[11:50] Yeah. And when we finished, Phil Clayton had the Brits and his training group. They're doing insurance and out races. And he said at the last one, jump in and have a bit of a go again. That OK, I was gassed. Yeah, you've got got found out quick around the Cairns. But yeah, so the whole mob were down there. And then as we're sitting there having a coffee, he walked past it and said, hey, Alex, he had no idea who I was. All right? Absolutely. You know what? You know those situations. And you're like, I'm like, oh, I'm old. Yeah, 'cause he didn't recognise that. I said, oh, we're Matt. We're the ones on the podcast that did the mat, said the thing.

[12:20] Gave me nothing. No, no, no. Then he gave he. Then I think the guard, I think the guard went down a little bit there, so. He's a like if you walked past Alex E on the street, you would have no idea that it's one of the greatest athletes on the face of the planet. Well, everyone else at the table said. Who's that? And then I had to go on to explain, you know, the relevance. He is of a different generation to you. He was born in 98, so you know you were well. I was thinking you were. Already a professional triathlete? Well, I was. Thinking when I was raising his mates, the Brownlee brothers in London, he would have been like

[12:52] in, in single digits, yeah. Yep. So it is a different generation. But yeah, the thing that stands out to me just on Alex, when you if you stand Alex and Matt next to one another. Yeah. And because we talked a bit about it with Matt in the episode about the size difference and we talked about the idea of a possible Brisbane 2032 triathlon course and incorporating a really steep hill. And Matt's like, no thank you. You can see why the power to weight ratio for Matt, he weighs in at 80 kilos, Alex. He looks like a strong gust of winner document. He's a, he's a whippet. Well, I didn't.

[13:23] I mean, like I said, I was having coffee when I recognised him, that he must have been swimming with the group I was titted the last effort with. So I only saw the Brits. Brits in their Element trains. There's no surf anyway. No surf Good. No, no. As long as they're not getting advantages. Very nice. Yeah. Again, Armidale Festival. Yeah. Very nice one. Hey, I wonder, I wonder we talked about the last, if you haven't listened, Harry Garside. She's the response to Harry's EP has been. Yeah, amazing. And it, it was probably one of

[13:54] the more enjoyable, not just podcast chats, but just the more enjoyable chats I've had with someone fascinating in a long time. Fascinating. So many different, I suppose, so many different layers. But what I loved is I agreed. It was so refreshing to hear and I agreed with so much of what he was saying. And it's something that we don't hear, not just young people, we just don't hear anyone in today's age talking the way some of the the honesty he was doing. But there was this bit I said

[14:25] that I was going to pick up. There was a minute in it that I I wanted to pick up. So just here we go. You miss with what you're doing right now, do you miss the structure of everyday training? And. And like, boxing's like crazy training, right? Yeah. Do you, are you missing that structure? Oh. So, so much. Yeah. And I do, I do think that there's maybe a sense of like immaturity in that, you know, I've been really contemplating this around like as an athlete, you're very much like, it's like you're a school student, you rock up to training. Someone's wrote your training session for you.

[14:55] The Army is arguably quite similar. Like you sort of you don't have much say, someone tells you what to do and you do it. So I, I do know that, hey, maybe I need to just get that structure in my life myself. There's maturity and manhood in that where it's like, maybe I haven't managed it that well, you know, because like after sport, like, like I'm not boxing as much as anymore and I'm just like, like I just make up my day, you know, I just wake up and I go, what do I do straight? And, you know, like there's no restructure, you know, but that's on me. That's on me. The agency is on me.

[15:25] And I, I think I'm looking for it. Yeah, because I was so used to it for for 10 years. I, I think you're going to always be looking for it. I think when you've spent 20 year, well, 20 plus years of your life, every day being so structured towards a goal and then going into four year periods and everything else, it's, it's next to impossible to one day wake up what did what. Did you think about it? Because this, this really hit home for me. And that's around this, this and we we talk a lot about elite athletes struggling.

[15:57] Tell me why, Because that bit of all the things that Harry spoke about and not a bit that jumped out to me because I haven't lived it. Yeah, I haven't lived that Olympic 4 year cycle. I haven't lived that rigorous athletic routine. It's someone else, one of my good mates who raced to a fairly high level, but probably not to Olympic standard once said to me. And he and then he went on to become very successful in business and he said, I can win, you know, I can win some big deals in business, but nothing will ever replace that feeling

[16:31] of working towards something in sport and then winning, crossing the finish line and actually winning a a race that you've prepared with all that time. And that was a direct comparison from business to to sport. But it's a structure thing that I don't know how I can explain it. But the reason it resonated so much is when your whole life has been dictated on time and you just don't question it. So you see a lot on on social media and for influences and everything about, you know, you've got to be determined and

[17:05] you've got to be hard and you've got to be disciplined and all those things. What I want to point out is none of that actually occurs in elite athletes. It just it's part of what you are and it's part of what you do. It's just what your makeup is. And to try and then remove that out of your life when suddenly sport's not no longer what it is. You do just become lost. And then you've got this, this time, this void to fill. And there's a lot of questions

[17:35] until you work out where you're going. So I think with him, I like listening to the whole conversation with Harry, he's going through all that at the moment, just trying to work out like, what I do next, where am I going, what has meaning to me, all of those things. And it's just, yeah, really hit. Can I ask just I want to ask more about this now that we've got some time. I'm you talking about the, the, the influences using those terminology and you describing it as part of your makeup when

[18:05] you would compete. The best analogy. Is this how it works? Remembering. Remembering like certain video games used to have the turbo. Yeah. And once you used up all the turbo, you had to wait for a while for the turbo to recharge before you could use it again. Well. That's F1 right at the moment. OK. Yeah, yeah. Is that how your competitive juices were? It's like you would go out and expend them in a race and then you'd and then they'd recharge

[18:37] them ahead of the next race. Was it? Is it like that? No, it was. More of a just a setting. It's just a setting. OK. And and and did but did racing and competing kind of not quite in that setting, but did it just it made use of that setting within you correct. OK, So then. It was purely, it was purely a goal post. Right so now that setting because it's not a switch well and because it's not a a thing that you use up and then refill. What is it just?

[19:11] It just sits there. Not dormant either, just. Well, when you don't press maybe maybe just the way you explained it, like you're asking the question, then it's like when you don't have a strong goal post, these suddenly question the meaning of. So up to up to that point, you don't have a question what you're doing day to day or what you're told or what the structure is because you're so focused on a, on a goal post. And then that finishes and then there's another goal post like the next one goes, whether that's a cycle or whether it's a race.

[19:41] And they can take away the goal posts and you're suddenly like, well. I've got a new. I've got a new analogy. What am I doing now? I've got a new analogy in my head. Tell me if this one works. You're a ship. OK. Going towards a lighthouse for your career, OK, whether And that lighthouse, whether it represents World Champs, Olympics, Commonwealth Games, whatever it might be, Noosa, whatever. And then suddenly you get the end of your career and that lighthouse is off. Suddenly you're just you're you're still that same ship, yeah, still in that same body of

[20:12] water, but literally with nowhere to direct. Yeah, your energy it's. A good. It's a good analogy, yeah. And you're still doing, you're kind of still wanting to do the same. Structure. But all the all the all the machine parts, all the body parts are still there. You have nowhere there to execute. You literally don't and you you can rotate and spin around and go, well, what have I got to point any of this towards? Yeah, yeah. And that. Means oh that makes me feel sick. And that and that I think that probably you've asked the question a lot over the two years we've been talking about

[20:42] like, why? Like certain athletes and some obviously figure it out quicker than others. Some probably fall into things that it maybe doesn't fill the void, but at least keeps it a bit suppressed. But I think in general, it's a common, especially when you've been at it like I think we're saying what, 20 years we're talking nearly 20 said he was sponsoring, you know, in that structure since he was 789 as I think don't know anything different. And that's why I think things like doing a triathlon and he's got like a little bit of a

[21:13] lighthouse to go and chase after it probably actually it makes him feel very comfortable because he's like, OK, I've got that to do. These are the things I've got to do to do it. And it gives me a bit of structure again. As I contemplate that feeling, I've always I love sport and I've always I dreamt of being a professional athlete. I don't know him what I just love the idea of sport being a job. That's my passion for sport. And I always looked at I

[21:44] understood it logically that athletes as they get to the end of their career, have a drop off and some of them struggled to find purpose. But there was always a part of me that never really understood and I'm like, OK, you're a bit sad because your time as an elite athlete is up, but you got to be an elite athlete for however long your career lasted. I but now thinking about it in the context of that directionlessness, it, it actually makes me feel very

[22:14] uneasy. The idea that that is in so many athletes once they get to the end of their career. And it makes so much sense why we see the behaviour that we do. Yeah, because I mean, I think a lot of people probably, you know, this is not above my level, but like, you know, especially maybe more high profile athletes and they blame it on, well, they're not in the limelight anymore. And, and, but I actually believe the majority and there's a generalisation, but it's not about the spotlight.

[22:44] It's actually not about the spotlight, not about the spotlight. It's actually internal. It's a, it's a, it's a structure thing of just, well, now you don't have to do like you just work to such a degree of structure. You're told what to do, where to be, how to do it. And and if you're going to last a long time in sport, you've got to have a love for that. The per we have a perfect global example right now in Tom Brady. This is a guy who changed the way we thought of quarterbacks in terms of longevity and he the speculation continues to be

[23:17] whether he might come out of retirement again. And if you ask him when he gets asked questions, he's like, yeah, I still want to go and play. He's no, he hasn't. And and this is not a guy who's out of the limelight. He is part of the broadcast. He is an owner of a team. He is. He has if you wanted something to fill the hole, he's got everything you want to. Participate. And yet still he's not satiated. Still, he's searching for that light, Yeah, to to pour his athletic energies into. Yeah, I like that, that convo with Harry.

[23:48] Yeah, like there was so many things that I so much stuff he opened up about also, even just, you know, around the idea is don't don't believe everything you're seeing on socials like. Yeah, I like that from Harry. Yeah, I, I the thing I might. Again, I'm glad we're reflecting on the episode with Harry, and for those that haven't listened to it, we're not putting in any spoilers. It's worth a listen. The thing I've really enjoyed is that this is someone who's undeniably an influencer, right? His profile is of a level and

[24:22] look, he's a handsome rooster who's in the prime of his life. He's in. Got an Olympic medal to his name. Speaks amazingly well. Brands understandably want to pay him to be attached. I I get it. So he is, by lots of metrics, undeniably an influencer, but so aware of the toxic elements of that. Yeah, that is. And And look, if if all influencers had Harry Garside perspective, I think you'd find social media would be a much more pleasant place to operate in.

[24:53] Yeah, but. Really enjoy it. We did tell him to go and have a run up the spit and I had a couple of local events that did you hear about this backyard Ultra before he mentioned. It yes and I was devastated. Did you? Hear about. It Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How? Did you hear about it? Socials across socials and I saw it in the so part of my day to day with the radio show is that I do check the paper. I check old media, I check traditional media and it and it was in traditional media. You hold the paper. I do well, I do it online so you

[25:23] don't hold the paper. And it was in the paper couple of weeks ago or whatever in the lead up. Yeah, right. So yeah, I was aware of it. Honestly really disappointed that I wasn't able to be a part of it. I would love to have gotten involved with it. So I until I was just scanning through this morning. We we must have mentioned it at some stage, but I had no idea this was on. I looked at the photos. We were right. They ran along the beach in the soft sand. Did that would have been hell. That's hard. That would have been absolutely hell.

[25:53] So I saw them in the spit trails, but then they also went out on the beach over and over again. Like if it isn't bad enough to have to repeat the loop. It sounds like it was a good event though. It does, but it it got me interested because why didn't I hear? I want to know why I didn't hear more about it. Where would you expect to hear about it though? Well, this is this is the question I have because where do you unless. It's your algorithm, right? Yes, but. But my real in in real life circle of friends, they didn't

[26:24] talk about one mention of it. So it was an it's an interesting 1 going on that Jordan. I think it's Jordan Willis of G up. He shared one and the the guys at trail, what is it? Trail trips and events. So Steve, they're running one a different, similar but different. So it's an unbroken marathon which goes overnight. What does that mean? What's an unbroken marathon? That's very good question. I haven't done Steve to try and explain it to me, OK? Hold on, Unbroken. So Gordon wanted to know, have

[26:56] you got any tips and tricks for night time trails? So go and listen to Holly's episode because she had a few tricks in there around sleeping and and all that type of thing. We I am definitely not a this backyard kind of deal. I mean, no expert at all in micro sleeping. When I go to bed, I like to go to bed for a long time. I'm just reading it here. The Wild Earth Unbroken. OK, so it's a Wild Earth sponsored event. It's happening Easter weekend. The goal? Keep your team on the move through the day and night until all your team members have completed all three of the 14

[27:29] kilometre loops around Scribbly Gums Conservation Area, right in the heart of Redlands at Alexander Hill. There's options for teams of four, with all four team members completing 3 laps and completing a marathon each. For those who really want to test their limits or don't have any more crazy mates, we have an ultra edition teams of two who will have to complete all three loops twice and with less rest between. So it must be it's a it's a little bit of a dumbed down version if you don't want to go into the full backyard. Yes. This might be a more introductory, excuse me way to

[27:59] get into it. OK, your team has a maximum of 26 hours to complete the four marathons before you get to run out of Dodge. Interesting. So there's some good little interesting local things going on around the place at the. Moment there's some there's some great little events. Can I quickly share a you know what I'm gonna say that if I get remind me I have a Speaking of the Holly episode. In fact, you know what? I'm gonna do it now. Just do it. I'm gonna do it now. So the Holly episode Holly Ranson the Miler Queen, Rihanna crane. He will be racing tomorrow in the T100 triathlon event

[28:31] alongside husband Will Davison. The VS supergars Rob great Gold Coast people brought in the heart of the athletic community as well. Re sent me a message. I've checked if she minds me sharing this. She said go for it. She said listen to your podcast with Holly. A few things people told me and told and I told myself. This is Ray who told herself before her Iron Man. She raced brackets. Remember you are not a professional so don't wish for the race you want. Enjoy the race you're having.

[29:01] There will be a moment of despair, but like everything in life, this will end. It may last a minute, 10 minutes, an hour, but everything ends and so will that moment. What a privilege it is to be exhausted by doing something you have chosen. I love that bit. Be there for the vibes. When you cross the finish line, make damn sure no random is next to you. You didn't just drag yourself out of the bottom of the well for some rando to ruin your finish line photo. Sorry, that's my favourite one. That's all I have. Otherwise, do your best, don't be shit.

[29:32] I love the two I love most in there is. What a privilege it is to be exhausted by doing something you've chosen, which is great. And I think when you think about it, if you want to go more broadly in life, whether it's your job you choose, whatever it is, to be exhausted by something you've chosen to do is a privilege. A lot of people don't get that privilege. And that last one, that is a cool reminder. And if you do have the opportunity to do it, and you've worked your ass off for something, let some random

[30:02] punter be in the photo with you at the end. Get that moment. Get make it so. What do you, what do you do if you're coming around the corner or something? You've got to stop. Or what look for me, for me and the Mila. If I there's no way I'm sharing the finish line with someone. I I'm going to if I have to stop and walk. A few extra. Steps up if I if I have to take a few slower steps up the furthest that to be honest, I might not be able to go any slower than I will be going, but I will. I'm going to make sure I get that photo. I'm getting that photo. I'm getting that I'm. Getting that photo, but thank

[30:33] you to Rey because those are genuinely awesome, fun messages that I think a lot of people. And good luck out there on the weekend. Yeah, go get it, Rey. Stay on your bike. No need to fall off like you did at Noosa. Hey, I got I got one few just random kind of messages that have come through right. This one's because have friends who are Jack of all trades masters and none. I know what this is. I've seen it, I've seen it. Have you seen it? Have you seen it? You know what? I actually have seen a slightly different one.

[31:03] OK. This is I wonder whether we're both getting fed this in our algorithms because of the apex athletes. 100% OK, I got this one was this one got sent to me, but it was who who had the first comment on it that kind of like resonate resonate because I was like, oh, you know who else sees these things? This one's all about if you can do all of these, you are in the top 1% of humans on Earth. OK, I never say that word. Probably so. That's all right. Type 100 words in a minute. Yep. Can you do that?

[31:33] Yeah, I'm pretty good typer. No, I'm a pretty good typer. Only the old touch typer. All right, OK, so type run a mile in under 6 minutes. Now I've seen this one and that works out to be 343 pace, Yeah, so I can do that. Yeah, for someone who can type in an office and do that. OK, balance on one leg for a full 60 seconds. The one I saw had this at with your eyes closed. Oh that adds. I can definitely do it with the my eyes. I've been a. Little bit of yoga. I haven't tried it with my eyes closed, but 75. Push ups in a row, That's solid.

[32:05] 75 push ups in a row now. I'm assuming I'm allowed to have a little bit of a rest at the top. I'm sure you can take a rest, but you can't get off. You can't get off the arms. I'm gonna say I can do it. I reckon we're going to get a. Call. I'm going to I. Guarantee you we're going to get messages now this week asking for a video like just just keep, keep. I know these videos I have to. Keep your list going. Keep your list going. Sleep 8 hours a night consistently for a month.

[32:35] And I'm out. This is just dumb. And I am out. Not a chance. This is this is like this is just content for the sake of putting crap out there. We we are swim one mile without resting. Swim one mile without resting? Yeah, I can. Well, I can do it. Yep. Do you know what I I swam. We swam AK without resting down the beach this morning. It was tough. OK walk 20,000 steps a day and still feel fine. I reckon most people do that. Read 30 books in a year. This.

[33:05] Is an interesting one because I set myself the goal of reading reading a book a month and listening to an audio book a month. OK, what are we in March? How'd you go? I'm still on the first book and I'm on the 2nd. Audio book What book are you? Reading I'm reading Malcolm Gladwell's it's the follow up to breaking tipping point, right? His his his first or his big breakout book called Tipping Point, which talked about oh, what's it? I'm going to have to find the name of it because I want to give. It find, find the name and we'll get on it.

[33:36] I'll keep going. Sprint 100 metres, another 13 seconds. That's weird. Like this is the problem with all of this. It's it's. Revenge of the Tipping Point is the map for those out there. It's a good read. Under some 13 seconds is really fast. It's like semi elite. If you're a high school or running under 13 seconds you're solid. Hang from a bar for a full 2 minutes, so 2. Minutes. Be clear. I couldn't do that. No, 30 seconds. The two minutes, it's a long. Time. Yeah, I I don't think I could do that. You think that's easy? No, it ain't easy. No, you couldn't do it. Dead lift twice your body

[34:07] weight. So what's that for me, 140? That's hard. 160, I'm talking 160. I don't think I could deadlift 160, I don't think. I don't don't say you can deadlift 1. 60 No, we don't. We don't need we. Don't need. We don't need another video on. That video ain't coming. And climb 20 flights of stairs without, Yeah. Right now I could do that. Yeah, and and and it goes on and on. Look, do. You know what, the other one of the one of this post that I got

[34:38] sent of this, the other one that was in there that I think would knock out most Australians is speak 3 languages fluent. Yeah, that I don't think, I don't think most people could do that. Definitely look, this is just getting I've I've read it. Oh no, the first one was the the comment on it was Chris Lenny. That's. Me. What did Lenny say? It's just got a big like Pinocchio knows. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Off the back of that one, though, I had this for later, but it kind of works off what I'm saying.

[35:10] It's a it's the the person is Matt flea cop is his Instagram handle and the post was what works and what sells. Extreme gets attention, intent gets results. The more rigid it sounds, the more marketable it comes. It's kind of like we kind of talked about this earlier a little bit. Simple doesn't sell. Consistency doesn't trend. Big rocks don't go viral, but

[35:41] they win. It's it's that. Duality of what we're talking about with a late versus influencer. And, and interestingly, I actually saw a post similar took you along similar lines from a marketing perspective that they were saying that marketing doesn't work, attention is what works. And they were using the example of the the baseball team that people might not be aware of called the Savannah Bananas. Yeah, I know that one. Savannah bananas depending on. What they did? Well, yeah.

[36:11] This is a They're an amateur baseball team. You know this is a but. It created the one of the biggest followings in sport. They're literally the in the perfect, the perfect comparison is Harlem Globetrotters. What Harlem Globetrotters were to basketball or are to basketball still is what the Savannah Bananas Savannah Bananas are to baseball. They're an exhibition team. But if you've never watched any of their content, just jump on their Instagram and, and in and scroll because it's so entertaining. And that's what they talk about.

[36:42] This guy talks about the idea of entertainment attention versus marketing. Yeah. And this, this baseball team, I don't know what they're selling, but I'll they'll, they, they get and they keep my attention. Yeah, yeah. So and then just to finish off this post, I won't go through all of them, but he's kind of notion and like, look, I don't know his background or how expertise he is, but elite athletes don't live like influencers, he said. He's not hating on influencers. He's just trying to spread some truth. And he said, like elite athletes, business owners, Hollywood performers and mum and dads.

[37:12] Yeah, look, the ones who do well, everyone enjoys a little bit of life. Everyone has pizza and ice cream every so often. Yeah, everyone has some rest days and and takes a vacation. And none of them lived in constant restriction. So yeah, just think a bit wider. So yeah for yeah. Think a little bit wider. The yesterday, literally yesterday, I had a moment where I knew I had to get the kids from school and then I had to go and take them to soccer training.

[37:43] And I woke up from a nap after I got home from work because I was a bit tired. And I looked at my watch and I was like, OK, I'll be able to fit in a run. And then I'll get back here and I'll pack up the car and I go blah, blah, blah. And I got out to the car in my running gear and I, I had it my way. I just went stop, just stop. You're not an elite athlete, right? This session's not going to make or break your prep. I went and sat down at the at the kitchen counter. I had a drink, I had some water, I had some food. I sat on my laptop with through

[38:13] some emails for 20 minutes. And then I got in my car and went and picked up the kids with time to spare. And then I kept took them to soccer with time to spare or without that mental drain. And in the end I got home afterwards, got the kids, got the kids to bath and I said, Alana had your mouth to duck out for a run. And I went and ran for an hour and it was fine. But it's that pause of stop listening to the influence and noise of strive achieved. To do well, it's not just the influencer noise, it's just motivation. But also you're just, you know. Motivated to get out and.

[38:43] Do something. But it was that moment of going distress, stop and stress. Is this going to be good for you? I had a moment the other week where I went, do you know what, 8 hours sleep tonight instead of getting up because I had a football game and I said instead of getting up early to go for an early morning run, I'm gonna, I feel like my body and my mind are gonna get more out of just having 8 hours sleep tonight. Yeah. Talk about it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I couldn't. I couldn't agree more. The destressing and went busy is is probably more important than any of it talking on the footy. Yes, we started calling some guys.

[39:13] Yeah. Yeah, back into the footy. What give give us because we've got a few die hard like people are asking us always about. Can I cover a little bit of AFL for us? Yep, with the expertise. What's the first? Well, round zero and round one. Round zero, round one. We're into round two as What's the? News What do you reckon? Well, for me, here's what let's talk about this here's an interesting talking about. I will just give some quick headlines, which is that the Gold Coast Suns are terrifying. Yep, they are seriously terrifying this season.

[39:43] Lookout haven't. Even got Rao off the bench yet. And Raoley, great to see Charlie Ballard back this year after his ACL injury. He plays his first game for over a year this weekend against the Tigs. Look, as the local team, scary good. Let's talk about Scott Pendlebury. You've met Pendles, in fact. What did what did he get introduced at Noosa Triathlon? It was Scott Pendlebury or something, but in Noosa being Scott Pendlebury carried no weight. At the Noosa Triathlon. No, no, I ran, I ran around for a while with him.

[40:15] I've got a few photos, like I post so little on my actual Instagram. I think he's photo with him still in the top, kind of. You jumped on my page. It's still in the top. He is now Scott Pendlebury is an icon and Scott Pendlebury will go on I believe this season he will break the record for most games played ever. So he was. I saw him in the news, I just can't remember why. Well, This is why, because for the first time in his career he had to go to the tribunal. So he's been clean. Has never been suspended. Has been fine over his career but has never been suspended.

[40:48] Right? This incident that happened last weekend meant he was facing A1 match suspension. Now Collingwood, as they should, went and challenged it at the tribunal. It was downgraded to a fine and the defence was the clean record policy. Do you believe, Courtney, that a clean record should be taken into account or should the incidents be judged on their merits? 00 The answer depends on what

[41:21] they normally do. It's a court of war. Isn't it that defence? That defence exists, yes. Exactly, that's what I'm saying. 427 games without a suspension, was facing A1 game suspension has had it downgraded. Got off with a fine. I think you got to take it into account. I do as well, but it also just. Depends on the severity of it. The the, the thing that's been fun following it this week. And again, if you start from the level of it's just sport, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you go down. Eddie McGuire was almost in

[41:52] tears talking about this during the week, such is his passion for not only the game, but Scott and Collingwood as a club, right? He was, it was. And look, I love the theatre of footy content in all codes and I do find myself giggling when I see people get so wound up about things because I just want to grab them and go, it's just the game. But all these shows and all these podcasts and all these segments would not be as good if everybody started by going, hey, let's just remember it's just a

[42:25] game. No, the passion, the emotion is what makes all this stuff so fun. It's the reason we watch it all. Eddie McGuire was almost in tears about it. And then you have all this this anti Collingwood proud who were like, no suspend him. You know who gives us like it doesn't matter how many games you played, the laws or the laws, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it has been the dominating story of the week. But I think the right outcome has been achieved and that Scott Pendlebury will be remain for now. It would be so funny if he went out and got suspended this week. It would be it would make me

[42:57] giggle if he went out and did something that got him rubbed out for. Assuming the noises like clubs against, not really, I don't. Even think the clubs, I don't even think the club's scared I the, the AFL judiciary, the way it works, the tribunal is so they set a, a matrix of punishments. It's like was the contact reckless or careless? Was it to the medium, low, high, severe impact dah dah dah dah. And when you put things into a

[43:27] matrix, you're going to get, because not all No2 incidents are the same, No2 incidents involve the same players, therefore they can't be the same because there's different, you know, Joel Selwood is in it. Some people used to say we'll go out and just target blokes who don't get concussed because there are players who can take head knocks better than others. And then there are players who, you know, you tap, you see them, you get tapped and they've got a concussion. And that's just the lack of Drew. It's just biology. And when you put a hard and fast matrix in place, people get the shits up.

[43:58] But then if you judge it on case by case basis, you have people screaming, where's the consistency? People just like, that's the great thing. It creates good. Media, but that's kind of where where the footy's at. The other thing that people are making a lot of noise about from opening round is the idea of opening round, launching the season out of Victoria with these games here on the Gold Coast and Brisbane and Sydney and all the rest of it. I personally, I personally would just start the season. As one round. As one round, I would say, look, I think it's naive to try and

[44:32] go, oh, we're going to reward the non Victorian markets. Victoria's the home of football. It's where we play our grand final. It's where most of the clubs are based. It's where the, you know, let's not fight against it. You know what it it does dude, It makes it confusing. OK, round, round one. Well, it also does because like those teams get the game up before the boys come into place and. There's been a lot of noise made about that as well from certain coaches who lost in round one against a team that had already played in opening round and just launched the season as one.

[45:03] If you don't have a Vegas, if you don't have an NRL style Vegas showpiece to launch with, if you're trying to manufacture 1 here locally, don't bother. Start the game with a big blockbuster that draws 8090 thousand to the MCG because that's how you end your year. Bookend it like that so early. Prediction grand final and winner I'll. Tell you what and which is the spot. This isn't just because but the Gold Coast Suns. They're the premiership favourites, first time ever. And they should be because they've destroyed Geelong, They

[45:33] destroyed West Coast, which is not a huge achievement right now. They will. They should beat Richmond on the weekend and they get a buy. Then they'll take on Melbourne who they should be. Tough test against the Swans in Round 5. I don't want to be get ahead of myself here, but they have the ability to go on a 10 game. OK, so on the record, on the record for the Suns and who are they playing? If I had to put them in the grand final, I think I'll say

[46:03] it's it was my pre season prediction. So I'll say it's the Lions. Lions get back there or Queensland or Queensland grand final. Now for those anti Victorians out there, enjoy because the Victorian mafia will not enjoy a all Queensland affair in the grand final. Cool. Hey, I want to talk about some running news. There's two things quickly I want to touch on, right? And I know you said one of them we wouldn't do today, but I want to include it. Eliud Kipchoge coming to

[46:34] Melbourne has announced Melbourne Marathon will be his Oceania run in this 7 marathon project that he's embarking on. Thoughts. Disappointing. Why? Because I thought he was going off to do some interesting stuff. Oh, so you think it's a boring choice? Yeah, absolutely. OK. I mean, it's it's a Nike event. Yeah. So he's going to Nike's events. Yeah. It's it's boring. You're flat OK. Yeah, yeah, This is why I was like, Oh no, no, no, no, this is coming with Sydney for the first time was really exciting, but

[47:06] just come back and do Melbourne. Like nothing against Melbourne's Melbourne Marathon, love it, but I just, I expected him to be, I would have been excited if he turned up at like the red, the red dirt marathon out at Alice, whatever it's called out at Alice Springs. Or did you know, like I feel because I saw somewhere where there was possibility or something around Cape Town and the same thing. I was like, oh, so he's going to go and run some awesome trail race up, you know, Table Mountain or something. If this is the start of it, it looks like he'll just stand up

[47:37] at the Cape Town Marathon. OK, so that's it's a good day. I like it. The winner of this, I want to applaud the Melbourne Marathon organising committee because I think they've gone from we talked about this. They were not irrelevant, but they last year on the marathon landscape here in Australia, uninteresting, uninteresting and in in with the with the readjustment of their format over the weekend and prioritising that the movement they made from the racing and now this, you're straight back

[48:11] up there to. Quote you last year you said the real winner in Sydney was Nike. I did well, look at them now. So the real winner again is saying it's Melbourne Marathon. But who's the real winner? No, no, see, I disagree. I think now the real winner is Melbourne Marathon. This is different, right? I think Nike managing to infiltrate an ASICS event made Nike the real winner this year. It's a Nike event. Melbourne Marathon is a Nike event, so it's almost irrelevant for not what's not irrelevant,

[48:43] but you know what I mean. I think the real winner is Melbourne standing as a marathon here in Australia and globally, because I don't think there would be many people overseas talking about the Melbourne Marathon. Now, now there's some folks. So is it his first? I haven't looked close enough. Is will this be his first of the? Seven things he's doing, I haven't seen any of the ocean Air appears to be the first that's been announced, so it won't say. Staying with massive names coming down under, this is bigger. I think Kipchoge was down here

[49:14] last year with Sydney. The effect, the impact is still there. This is amazing. This was this. Sha'Carri Richardson Yep, to Stawell is racing the Stawell Gift. Yeah, this blew my mind. It, I mean, it's an interesting one, that's for sure. It's A and even a good way. This is now if you're, if you're listening to this and going, who's Sha'Carri Richardson? That's OK. Yeah, she is.

[49:45] If you saw, if you saw the image, you would know who we're talking about. This is the it's I would say she's the noisiest female sprinter we've had in quite some time. Plus. She's the Olympic 100 metre silver medalist. She's the Olympic 100 metre gold medalist in the relay with the US women's team, she's the world champion. Her PB over 100 is a 10.65 and. She was one of the main protagonists on Sprint. And and the Netflix Daco Sprint,

[50:18] she was also, she missed out on the Tokyo Olympics because of marijuana. That's right. That was the suspension. She she got tested positive for for marijuana in the lead up to those Olympic Games. So she was ineligible. She is a, you know, people might have heard of Noah Lyles. We talk about sprinters being noisy athletes. She is a noisy athlete and she's coming to Australia to race our famous. Sprint. I think within athletics this is

[50:48] massive. Huge. Absolutely massive. And I think she's coming, her partner's coming as well. I wonder what else is she's doing when she's down here. That would be interesting. Is she just flying in? What do you reckon it takes them? Just big load of cash. Tasty. Get her. Here she ain't coming. She ain't coming for free. What's the what's the prize money at Stawell? It's a decent. Yeah. But the chances of her off scratch win, like the chances of winning Stawell off scratch, I'm assuming or close to it.

[51:22] She'll be off scratch. She'll be off scratch. Oh, it's a 40 grand payday. Oh. Yeah, but for I'm I'm, I'm making for the gift. I'm making assumptions here. That's like, I want to like a less than an appearance for her somewhere. We'll get back to the appearance stuff in a minute because I do want to talk about it. Christian Coleman, who is her partner, is also racing and this is a he is a world champ, 2019 world champ over the 100 metres as well. OK. So they're both coming down. Maybe they just want to see Kangaroos.

[51:53] Definitely not the reason. Well, let's map it out. So they're here for Easter. This is, I mean, this is in a couple of weeks, they're going to be based, they're going to fly into Melbourne, be based out of Mel. I'm Sha'Carri is a Nike athlete as well. I believe there would be. Look, there'll be a Nike event. You'd expect something to be on. I would be expecting that. There's a lot of high end brands that will be looking to get

[52:28] Sha'Carri on board while she's down here. It's a shame she wasn't down here earlier for the F1 because she would have been. She would have. That's the level, if people don't understand who she Curry is that we're talking about. She's the sort of person that should be walking down pit line at the F1 Grand Prix. Yeah, with those sort. Of because the US audience would like a worldwide a global audience. Yeah. Yeah, she would yes. Great news. It's all happening here. I'm. Also just really exciting about the idea of the casual observer going to Stawell too, like this

[53:00] is, I'll be honest, this is the sort of thing that would get me to Stawell. I've never been to Have you ever been to Stawell? No, I've never been to Stawell. My my wife is always she, she's a sprinter. Back in her day, she said we should do a road trip one day there. This would be the reason for us to go to go and see Sha'Carri Richardson run. I I was pausing because I was just thinking, but I want to try and participate in some way. It's a long way to go. Stawell is in that is that is the one day outside of the Stawell. Gift store is an inconvenient place to get to. My my long time masua who was originally a what the an AFL

[53:33] coach. We used to train the AFL boundary umpires for running but at the same time used to get the milers at the Stawell Gift ready. Oh wow. And the story, I mean, he would have, he would have rubbed me for, you know, a good decade in the Gold Coast. He retired up here and I used to go in each week and have a chat and the amount of stories he told me about all of the setups of how how long they would set up their handicaps, like years worth of sandbagging. And I just, yeah, I mean, great

[54:08] event. Yeah. Sounds like handicap runnings. Just as dodgy as bloody as greyhounds. I wouldn't trust them as far as you could kick them. Stalls a 2 1/2 hour drive from Melbourne. This he's a. We'll move on from there, but I think Sha'Carri has an opportunity to create the biggest a moment for Stawell since Kathy won the 400 off. Scratch that famous video that people have seen of Cathy Freeman winning the 400 metres at Stawell. I think for athletic, for

[54:39] athletic circles, this is huge, how much it will crossover to mainstream to help Stawell. It takes these athletes to do it though. Yeah, this is what it takes to to take a niche sport like athletics. I've noticed that I feel like athletics is getting a lot more celebration on free to air TV than it used to. Yeah, Bruce is back calling all the athletic mates on Channel 7 official broadcaster. And I feel like more and more athletics is back into the mainstream because of Lockheed

[55:10] Kennedy, because of gout gout, because of Torrie Lewis, because of this generation of athletes that we have right now. So. Do you know why you feel that way, Liam? Because I like it. Because you watch free DfT. Yeah, yeah, because I work in, because I work in traditional media and therefore I pay attention to traditional media. All right, I get. It I look, I want to get to because we've been so invested in guests for the past while, we haven't just had to shout out to our listeners. Let's get back.

[55:41] So let's make. It about them. Come on, let's have a quick listen. Hey guys, it's got a little story for you on the topic of push poos and the forest. I run with a group on the Thursday morning out in the rang. We normally do the 2.0 loop and one of the new guys a few weeks ago didn't tell us but he dropped back to do some business out there and we were linking up at the top of the goat climb and he's not one to be like slow but we're all waiting for him.

[56:13] About 10 of us, and we got a bit concerned so a few of us ran back. Finally linked up with him again and he was subtly jogging back as if nothing had happened but wasn't wearing socks. Fortunately he wasn't carrying toilet paper. It's just funny because we're all thinking it was injured or something like that, but turns out he didn't sort himself out in the morning before 10K trailer. Socks. Whoever it was, it happens to the best of us.

[56:44] Well, we were. We're having this. Who? I can't even remember when we were having that. Discussion that's from a few that's from a little while back. Thank you, Jake, that hey, all that sort of running story always. Welcome. Yeah. Ethan, Ethan, Davey, A Liam ski a what is it a Liam ski scheme that actually became a reality? Anytime Fitness in Sydney Airport. Yes, yeah, I look, if anybody's used it, that's the review. I. Want I saw the I think he's the general manager for Australia.

[57:14] Simon Thompson, ex Olympic triathlete. MMM, I saw him in this reel. He he was the one to actually launch. It great. OK, Well done Liam. Scheme's coming to fruition. Yep, here's this one. Actually, you can read it. You got you. Look, yeah, yeah, I got Matt Matt, Matt Cooper, Matt J Cooper. No word of aloe. My YouTube algorithm brought up that video of the Courtney interview and the dog a few weeks ago. I was looking up old triathlons from the 90s for reference. It was on the panel. Very funny stuff. This is the video where the dog dragged itself on the grass behind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was doing the old.

[57:44] See, I love being when you're not telling fibs. Yeah, tell a good story back. It up, there's no. Need on the panel. No need to bullshit. Hey this I'm I'm glad you've included this one in the run sheet. MAD sent us this message on Spotify. I have a question for Courtney coming from a similar situation myself. What is your motivation for the T100 10K when you know you aren't in PB shape? What will keep you pushing at the 5K mark when you know the outcome won't be a shiny one?

[58:14] Well, I've got news that no one's gonna like to hear because it just sounds like excusing it. But I've I've been niggly so I'm I'm avoiding it. You're not running. No, I'm not running at all. At all. I knew you'd be niggly. I didn't realise you were. Pulling out and I pulled out OK, so there's I'll be down there. Don't get me wrong. The reason is I, I want to get to this marathon and I do not want to help myself, but this is getting ridiculous now. Excuses. But to answer your question, yeah, all that was gonna the the reason I'm so annoyed and all that was driving me was a match

[58:44] race. So I was like the time became irrelevant at that time at this stage, and I'd picked someone to race and then I was in the race. How do you But can you? Let's imagine there is no match race. How do? You, you give yourself a reason, find it. You manufacture what? You manufacture a reason. Yeah. And the best reason I've got is mates. So there you go Matt. If you find yourself and mad, then to anybody else who finds themselves heading into an event where they know APB is unlikely, find a reason.

[59:17] Manufacture A motivation. Manufacture something. Yeah, and if you can't, like, find someone the same speed, put a handicap on it, make it fun. There's always a way you can make a mattress with some people. There you go, 100%. Thank you. That, that, that, that. There you go man. We talked about Matt Hauser about getting his own colour shoes, so Sally's written in and go Lucy. Charles Barkley has ASIC super blast. She had a colour way. So there's no excuse.

[59:47] Noosa Try, I suppose it's actually ASICS who do it, not Noosa try, but yeah. I'm looking. I want to find out that Lucy Charles Barkley. They do it. So you think for the world champ that? Mermaid core with the all new super Blast too. She did too. She got her own ASICS. Come on. Put it this way. I will commit to buying a pair if you make that. So they're one pair sold. One pair. It's all about dollars for these guys. Commit one pair sold.

[01:00:17] Come on. ASICS. Dan Brunsema coming in from down in Melbourne. Big props for your tan ideas. Yeah, see. We have some Melbourne listeners. Well, of course we do. Yeah, of course we do. Benny Hogan, This is jumping back in on the conversation around Oakley Meta, the glasses being banned. Yeah, in the there was a. Few people who replied to this with the same. Oakley Glass are likely banned simply because all types of headphone music has always been banned in triathlon. I've seen people on course pulled out of rice and dequeued for wearing earbuds or even open eared headphones. What?

[01:00:47] Is it just a safety reason? Safe that music's in here? OK, cool. The same kind of thing like we've talked about on the trails before, it's not banned, but it's maybe not the best etiquette. Yeah, yeah, OK. In a race. In a race, by the way. In a race, of course. What have we got here? This one? You've answered this one. Oh, this is Natalie. Natalie who asked me to run a do the come and do a long run with her in Malaysia. I'd like I'd appreciate the invitation do. You reckon it was in I'm trying to break my world record running the length of Malaysia in seven

[01:01:17] days. Do you reckon she's in Malaysia or just trying to run it in a straight? Like trying to run the distance of breaking a record in Malaysia? There's one way. Either way, Natalie can good luck or hope it went well. Oh, sorry, just a quick, I should say a quick shout out to I had look, I love doing this podcast, right? OK, I did have the strangest listener shout out. The other day it got sent to you. No interaction. I'm trying to find you.

[01:01:48] While you're finding that Elise, who was our school teacher who wrote in about the the Strava, the weirdest Strava, she explains messenger Judy is basically every day two students in the high school get picked to send all the notes from the office around different places and empty the bins. Yeah, that's a good job. So anyone wondering what messages Messenger? I found I found this OK, I was heading out for a run out in the trails. I'm all get up. I'm literally at the end of my

[01:02:18] driveway and a fella comes bast on a motorbike fly flyering, dropping leaflets in letter boxes and he's like big fan of the podcast out the front of my house. I was like cheers. Like, he was on my lawn and I was like, that's cheers. He was. Yeah. And then we started having a chat about his running and his name's Nick. Good on you, Nick. Thanks. saying g'day. And then I got back from the run and Alana, it was in Sasha.

[01:02:50] Why were you talking to the guy delivering leaflets for so long? I'm like, oh, this is the podcast. She's like, oh, I was like, what is Liam doing anyway? I. Can't remember. Did I tell you the I think I told the story when I was at dinner down at the F1 the other night. No, no. What did you went to dinner at the F1? I'm sure I told. Did someone come up to you? Yeah, I was. I was at dinner at a table with a few, just like one of those surprising moments I was out there with, I was actually at dinner with a footy team and a few other people from other other organisations. And it was like the

[01:03:21] conversation, where don't they go? I don't. My wife listens to your no. I don't think the podcast has that story, no. I will say the the podcast has actually transitioned to a point where it's bigger than the radio show for me today because of the T100 pickup. The guys at Pillar performance there. I mentioned Ally Day, Ally introduced me to Demo from Pillar and he, Ally knows me from the radio because we've done stuff for the radio. And Ally introduced me to Damo as this is Liam from Triple M Gold Breakfast radio show. And Damo said, Oh yeah, yeah, you look familiar. And I said, obviously the

[01:03:51] billboards are working. And then as we kept chatting, I mentioned this podcast. He's like, no, that's where I know you from. So this is carrying much more traction. Better, better advertising. Gold Coast Highway. Billboards. This stupid big billboards in my head. You're doing some bus stops at the moment. Doing some bus stops. They actually, and sometimes I just go and sit at the bus stop and just take this. Hey, would you like to listen to my breakfast radio show, please? No, Our brekkie show's going good. We're having fun. Jordan, have I told you about

[01:04:21] Jordan Mailata? Have I talked about this on the podcast? No, we had the Super Bowl winning Aussie come and talk. To me personally about the rings this. This man is enormous. This man, the six-foot-eight, 166 kilos. You know we're going to have a few quiet sales going now. That is a guy who can let. Let us know if he's OK in your category. I think he's OK in the category 166. Jordan Mailata, the Philadelphia Eagle winning Super Bowl has made the funniest.

[01:04:52] Part of the thing with Jordan is that I do the breakfast radio show with Liesel Jones and Jordan, halfway through the interview, I was talking to him about how much money he's made as a professional footballer because it's a lot. And he obviously wasn't good enough to make it in the NRL. And I said, I think you've got them covered. I think you've made the right choice. And Liesel made a joke that yeah, and I won Olympic gold medals and only earned $20,000 a year. And Jordan literally there was this moment where he goes, Oh my

[01:05:22] gosh, you're Liesel Jones. Like he, he, he didn't realise that Liesel was that Liesel. And he was like, Oh my gosh, Liesel. I'm so embarrassed. He's like, I used to scream at my TV when you were swimming and yell kick, like he's like, I love swimming. But he hadn't put it together in his head that the Liesel interviewing him on the radio was that Liesel Jones. It was so funny. And it was cool to see Jordan Mailata, the Super Bowl winner however many time millionaire

[01:05:54] fan out over a swimmer. I mean, everyone grows up in in different walks of life. What's he? I'll just do the quick, quick Google because they call him. He's often referred to as the Monster or the Beast, but that is the same nickname. Jesse the Monster. Williams A. 100% I don't think that's true my. Ladders, I don't know. I don't know if they're that I've never really heard him did I called that but. I told the story about Jesse on here.

[01:06:24] No. Well, you got a Jesse the Monster Williams story. I've got a Jesse story go I got and I've got. I've got proof of anyone, so I got. He said that he took a shit in the woods and used his sock. Close. No, not to no. He didn't take a shit. But one day I got a random message from the monster. From Jesse. I'm Jesse. Yeah, just saying. Hey, I see you go up. Where's this location you go to? Would you mind taking me up?

[01:06:55] I take photos. I'd love to get up there. And the place was the page's pinnacle. No way. So I said yeah, shouldn't like. Yeah, sure. Like yeah, why not? So we. I met the monster. I met Jesse out, he took. Him up to Page's pinnacle. Met him out the back of up the goat track of Springbrook, yeah. Parked up, said good day and walked him up to Pages Pinnacle. Now, anyone who's been up to pages knows once you get there,

[01:07:26] you kind of got to get a like a slide across on the, I don't know, it's not really a like a hard Cliff. But it's it's a ridgeline type thing. He wasn't the biggest fan of heights. Well, and he's in. He's a big guy, too. He wasn't the biggest fan of heights, however. Jesse, Jesse's at 191 centimetres tall, weighing in at 150. So he's not, I wouldn't have thought he's built for that narrow rock line on of Paige's Pinnacle. He's a big guy, isn't he?

[01:07:57] Courtney's just showing me a video of him. And so you walked him up there. Walked him up the pages, the hills got some photo. Like, I mean, he's an athlete, but he's an explosive athlete. Yeah, he got some nice. He got some nice photos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, I think of it so. Random Hey I. Noticed for those interested in a Subaru Forester, new Subaru Forester ad, getting around with your head in it, The ad, you're off. You're sitting in a kayak. Oh yeah, yeah, that one. We just see that on the TV this morning on Free to Wear TV. Who was that?

[01:08:29] Oh, it's actually made it to proper. Like it's not TV socials. No, no, no, free to wear TV this morning, the new Subaru Forester being advertised and you're you're ahead. Yeah, big old kayaking, kayaking with one in white water. Yeah, it looked. Like the solo man. No, you did not. It looked like Oh. Jeez. It looked like you look more like somebody out in Darling Harbour who's there on a tourist cruise. Oh God, you were not the solo so I. Wasn't selling. I wasn't selling. Hard no. The car looked awesome and the scenery looked great, but it was a more of a cheesy grin of yours

[01:08:59] all. Right. OK, No, I'm. Trying to fix that. Obviously you didn't get a say in the edit. All right. Have you got anything else for us? Hey, what I will say, if anybody, if you're listening to this today or tomorrow and you're at the T100, come up and say hi. Come say g'day. Courtney's going to be out there as a spectator. I will be out there running. If you, if you see us at any point, make sure you come over and say g'day. I love talking to people who listen to the podcast, subscribe, share with your

[01:09:31] friends. This community continues to build. We are, we do have other guests on the way, but we are getting back to Courtney and I just talking like we have been over the last year or so. Yeah, 'cause it's going well. We're going to see how I catch up. But yeah, stay tuned. And for those marathoners, stay tuned. We are closing in on marathon prep window. We're inside 16 weeks. We're closing in on that time that Benita said to start your 12 week programmes. We will obviously be reflecting that here on the podcast.

[01:10:01] So make sure you're ready to go. And if anybody you know is joining in the Gold Coast Marathon this year for the first time, make sure you bring him to the podcast 'cause we wanna support and hear about their journeys and provide you as much as we can. Yeah, have a good week. Good luck to everyone running.