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# MATT HAUSER - WORLD TRIATHLON CHAMP RACING T-100 GOLD COAST 10KM RUN
- URL: https://www.inthebeginningpodcast.com/matt-hauser-world-triathlon-champ-racing-t-100-gold-coast-10km-run/
- Published: 2026-03-03T06:00:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-08-20T11:42:24.000Z
- Description: Matt Hauser returns as world champion ahead of the T100 Gold Coast 10km run.
- Author: Courtney Atkinson
- Tags: Episodes, Triathlon, Olympics, #Import 2026-07-28 20:58

*Matt Hauser returns as world champion ahead of the T100 Gold Coast 10km run.*

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\[00:00\] In the Beginning T100 Special edition episode, we're counting down to let's call it a historic event, Courtney, because it is. It's the first time this race has ever been held here on the Gold Coast. It's a brand new format for the Gold Coast and for the sport of triathlon. And of course, there's this epic 10K race, a part of the whole weekend event on the Sunday, which we can't wait for to and particularly, again, big shout out to those people that have signed up for the race as part of the In the Beginning podcast team. I don't know if this man signed up as part of that team. It's a big question.

\[00:32\] I'm tipping this fellow that we've got in today doesn't need to sign up. I think he just gets in races. If he hasn't gone through the process of applying to be a part of the In the Beginning podcast team, he should. It is, of course, the world champion of triathlon, Matt Hauser, welcome back. G'day gents, I can confirm I didn't go through the channels to go in there. I actually had a choice of bib number, I could have been 001007, I could have been anything. I just told them to give me what they wanted. So they look after you when you're the best, that's all you need to know, no?

\[01:04\] Let's just stop, right? It's a fun run, gentlemen, so there's nothing fun about you having the choice of bib numbers. Essentially. And you didn't even, well, I just thought it would be a little bit too much if the world champion requested it. What did you go with? I just said, give me whatever you've got, my year, 6000, yeah, and they said, no, back of the line. We need to talk off air about you needing to start approaching your career differently. You are the world champion now,

\[01:34\] Matt. I think I put my nickname down, I put Hauser down, OK, a little bit, alright. So you're running the 10K, the team run. Yeah, I am running the 10K, officially. This is a break, this is an announcement, this is another exclusive, I don't know what other exclusive we've got. Last time we spoke to you was before Noosa Triathlon. So congratulations, took the win there, world champ, tick, Noosa champ, tick, that was a huge year. Also got engaged in that period. Yeah, a few weeks ago, another tick, tick the box in this box again.

\[02:06\] Just quietly, never refer to the engagement as ticking the box. It means far more than the World Championship victory. Well done, well done, well done. I do want to touch on Noosa because last time we spoke to you that hadn't happened. Why are you doing the 10K? If this is a fun run, why are you doing it? Well, originally I had pencilled this weekend in to race the T100 middle distance race, and then we found out that it was going to be females only,

\[02:36\] which, as general the Queen of Gold Coast, Noosa and Australia triathlon, she's obviously taking priority to put the women on on the Gold Coast, that's fine, I'll take that. You said you didn't want to be controversial, no, you're starting well, all the respect, to be honest. But then I saw that they had a 10K run and I was like, well, I kind of wanted to develop my run a little bit more considering my competitors are running 2:06 marathons now, so I need to

\[03:07\] develop that side of my craft towards LA Olympics. So I thought that this was a good stepping stone to do that. And while I'm not racing, I've got Abu Dhabi, which is a start of the World Series the following weekend in on the 29th. But yeah, this just happened to be a free weekend that I thought, why not? Imagine just put yourself in the boots of the T100 race organiser at the moment you get a phone call. Hey guys. Yeah, it's Matt Hauser. Do you mind if I run? Can I please run on the Sunday? What just a gift for an event organiser to be handed that I.

\[03:40\] Actually said please like please let's make a pro field like let's get some fast guys and girls doing it but. So do you know anyone else? Who else would you? Have you got some paces? I've heard whispers, well, I've heard whispers that Ryan Gregson might wanting to do it. I don't know. I haven't actually spoken to them directly. So that could be a. No, it's a great whisper. I love it. I love it. No, put it out there. TMZ. You know, I like it, yeah. Well, you The whisper was daily enough that I'd heard of that through. Someone There we go. There we go. Confirm Whisper OK. This is there more?

\[04:11\] Well, more whispers. Well, Alex, he's just touched down into town. Shut up. Obviously the Olympic champion with the Brit Tribe programme. They're here for a few weeks training with Phil Clayton ahead of the first race of the series, Abu Dhabi as well. So I'm, I might, I don't think he's gonna do the 10K. He might pace me. I don't know. I'm begging him at the moment. So if I go to my hands and knees enough, I, he might. So we'll stay tuned on that. Seriously, he might pace. You he might pay the two O 6 second of all a second all time British marathon runner only by Mo Farah might pace me but we'll

\[04:44\] see Well I'm just putting that out in the universe, so let's hope he conforms. This is. If you're not met, like if you're listening to this podcast, you're obviously you're India running and you appreciate what we do and we talk a lot of running. We talk some other stuff too. But this is not nothing what Matt has just casually dropped here, but potentially not only do we have the world champion triathlete racing in the T110K race on the Sunday, but potentially the Olympic triathlon champion might pace him for the 10K race.

\[05:16\] I see Alex would be sounds. Logical. Alex would Alex would ask for his own bib number. I feel like Alex would ask for his own bib number. He'd probably have Pacer. I think. Imagine that, you know what? We can organise that. What a photo, We can organise that. What a photo? You mean? You mentioned these run. What is it like? I mean, you've raced head to What's it like sitting back and watching him then go to a complete like arguably when you compare it to Olympic business

\[05:48\] triathlon, it's a completely different distance, right, so it's not apples for apples, but you're watching him run 2:06, what are you thinking back home going, I'm in my pre-season now, what have I got to do, am I spoiling myself? No, I'm really good mates with him first and foremost, so I was stoked for him when he ran that, even what he did in London, that was incredible to debut at 2:11 on a really hot day and tough, challenging conditions. So for him to then go out and run 2:06, second all-time

\[06:21\] only behind Mo Farah, was kind of crazy, and yeah, I was definitely in awe of it. And then I was also thinking, well, surely, you know, he's done marathon for a year, that might take a bit away from his 5-10K pace, but that's still like a 3:01, 3:02 average for 42.2K, that's no slow pace. Does it make you want to go off and race marathon more, or think of triathlon and Ironman more beyond once you're finished

\[06:51\] with the Olympic stuff? I don't know. I'm honestly just taking it as it comes at the moment. I don't want to think too far down the track. I have a feeling that, you know, I'm probably 20 to 25 kilos up on him on the weight distribution. So I think I might not be as well suited to marathon running as he is that? That's not seriously the weight difference. Yeah. I'm about 80s, probably around 60 or so really. Yeah. Oh yeah. I didn't realise. Like I you're a big lean guy, but he's that lot. Yeah. That's incredible, springing in

\[07:22\] and whatnot. And he's running Gates. Incredible. So he's got a lot going for him. And yeah, that 206 definitely proved to the world that he's more than just a triathlete. Getting back to you and running this 10K event. If you're already entered into the T110K, this may be the first and only time you get to do a fun run with a World Olympic as a World Triathlon champion, so enjoy that. This is the I warned you there was a question, I might be dumb offensive, I don't know. Here we go.

\[07:53\] Will you win? Honestly, now that I've put everything out there, I'll probably get chopped by some H grouper. Honestly. I don't, I don't think, I don't think that's. Well, let me ask you, Courtney, will he win? Well, that's why I asked him who's running. But yeah, I mean the there's, you know, the, I mean, if you're the top. I can take it. I can take. It if you want. To. If you're the top, this is this is, I mean, what these young guys intrath on when I say young from my perspective are showing now is you're gonna have to be

\[08:27\] the you are the best, one of the best runners in the country to be able to be the best triathletes in the world. OK, That's not just Australia, that's across the world. And Matt's gonna be, you know, with what the sessions we're seeing Matt do, you know, he's part of that echelon of the best runners in the country, you know, the top handfuls. So I think it's always, and I know in my time when I used to race, it was always exciting to get to go up against the runners because in reality, there's actually no pressure, right? They're runners. They're expected that they should beat you. The pressure is actually on them. So it's always a great place as

\[08:58\] a triathlete to go to a running event because, yeah, you flip the switch. This is, and again this is a tough question, roughly how many Australians are there faster than you over 10K? Oh, I'd say there'd be quite a bit. I'd say. I'd say probably 10 to 15 on the road. I think he's being very humble. That's not very many. I well, yeah, it's not very many, but I'm definitely I probably I. Thought you were going to say like 50 or 100\. See The thing is I've specialised in running off the bike for like 10 to 15 years

\[09:29\] now. So I really think that if I did specialise in running, I probably wouldn't be able to go OK too much quicker just because that's over time period your body just becomes efficient enough to deal with that kind of stress off the off the bike. So yeah, I think for me, like I say, for instance in Wollongong at the World Championship race, I ran off the bike 2916 after a 40K bike and a 1500 metre swim. So probably for this 10K run, considering it's in March, it's

\[09:59\] probably going to be a bit hot and humid. I'm probably aiming around that mid 28 OK mark so not that much quicker than on what I'd do off the bike anyway so. And what does Ryan Gregson? What if whispers of Gregson? I'd say he'd be around the 28 mark, so I'd say he'd be one of the quickest. He'd probably be the quickest there so, but we'll see you on the day. Can you understand why I was the question? The nervousness to us like, would he win the like? That's it's. You know. No offence taken on. I'm a triathlete, I'm a swim

\[10:31\] bike. I'm. One that's the beauty of going yeah, it's always enjoyable going and running races because it's not you're not the one like. The news of Bolt. Or yeah, for sure. Hey, there's obviously the crew that listen to our podcasts are all, you know, generally heavily involved in running a lot of triathletes. After talking to you guys and your coach Matt, coach Matt, coach Dan after leading into Noosa. However, give us your session that you would, you know, we're what, 3 weeks talking now or probably 2 weeks when we release

\[11:02\] this out from the 10K. What's one of your favourite 10K sessions? I'll give you a couple. So I'd say that the one that we're doing on the track on Tuesday coming is about 8 to 10 one KS. So the classic 10K, like 10K prep set, 1K reps and we'll look to that off like a minute, a minute and a half rest 1 going like 10K pace. The other like, you know, a bit of varied speed. So it might be like 400 at say,

\[11:32\] just under 10K pace and then like 200 a little bit quicker, 200 float and then back into it again, you know, for AK or so that's an example of what we would probably do to sharpen up on the track and then say, for instance, this shoes I just go on. We did a session around Tallebudgera Drive more about that like threshold pace and then dip down to 10K or sub 10K pace. So we went 10 minutes at like 310 pace into like I think it was a minute float into 2 by 3

\[12:07\] minutes at 10K pace or 250 splits and then into another 10 minutes at that 310 pace and then again three by two minutes at that 10K250 pace. So that's kind of just like that varying pacing, which I think it really does help triathlon as well or running off the bike and just upsetting rhythm of your competitors and whatnot and trying to trying to kick down that last little bit. That's a big sale. I was gonna ask that one. I love float runners.

\[12:38\] Yeah, the floating there, yeah. So the varied pace stuff, you believe it's that's more skewed towards the triathlon and the triathlon racing then you know, you're not focusing on 10K runs. No, Well, yeah, for sure. I mean 10K is we do 10K running obviously. But I think just for me, it helps snap me out of the rhythm. And I feel like even sometimes I run quicker, run better when I am varying my pace up a little bit on like I'm responding to attacks in the race, which, you know, was happening a lot last year with,

\[13:08\] with my battles against, you know, Miguel and Vasco Velasco as well in the World Series. So yeah, for me, I just like to kind of implement that into training. So when it comes to racing, I do have a bit of a kick down or can respond to attacks, you know when they come. Let's talk news for a moment. The satisfaction you had crossing the line, you remember. Is it still? Is the feeling still with you? Yeah, it was. I had a little bit of tense moment where I think John Reed from America had like only 15 or

\[13:39\] 20 seconds to me at the turn if I turn around. And I was like, geez, like I'm not gonna have this all my way today. So I kind of had to kick down. But I ended up having about a minute on him in the end. So that was that was nice to kind of finish and to soak in the crowd. And I think it was just for the week, because there was two weeks post Wollongong world champs and for the week straight after Wollongong, I was kind of just riding that high, like ready to get back in, like eager training and stuff like that. And then the week leading up to new. So I was like, oh, OK, there we go again. Like, you know, it's just like a

\[14:09\] big effort to then get up again and go for another race after, you know, coming down from that massive high. So for me, crossing news. So I was yeah, elated, but then also just kind of exhausted and crossed the line. I was like, that's me down for the year. Yeah. You're right. So you had a little bit of that residual. Yeah, the Wollongong hangover for sure amplified by the fact that the Noosa build up is there. So it's doubled effect. For sure. And I really wanted it like I'd come second the year or two previous to Hayden. So yeah, I wanted to make my own mark on the history of the race. So yeah, for me to get that job

\[14:39\] done was really special. But then, yeah, I knew as soon as I crossed the line, I was like, I'm done. Yeah. Even just to get up for that race, I was just like, it was bit of a mental mission. Yeah, but with only two weeks break, you must have been ultra confident as well, right? You've just, you've just about the world knowing, even knowing the field, you were like looking, going OK, I've just got to do my race. Reverse periodization doesn't work back two weeks. Two weeks, you get it. Yeah. I thought you'd be pretty confident. What's the What was it back like in the training group with Mr Mercer?

\[15:09\] Yeah, it was good. He had a rough day. He crashed actually along with Jackson. Didn't get another training partner of mine. So yeah, unfortunate day for him, but yeah. And I think he was just, he was just like, oh enjoy it for the next 5 months mate. Take it back, take it straight back off. Yeah, so good. I love the band. Like it, like it, Yeah. So you've added your name to that. You know, it is a mark in the Australian triathlon scene. You've ticked that off, you've ticked off the World Championships. How much of where you are now is

\[15:40\] about LA? Everything even last year, to be honest, like it's hard to stay in the moment. But yeah, for me, Wollongong was just a step in the road. And I have to keep reminding myself that because, you know, it is, it is a big thing like being a world champion and going through that process. But then it's like, it is relatively like a medium stepping stone, you know, towards a bigger goal of LA and trying to get that Olympic glory and success for the country. So yeah, for me, I really do have to say headstrong and keep

\[16:11\] my mind at the at the task because, yeah, Hayden and Alex are going to come back into the follow this year and race World Series more full on and get their Olympic points and qualification. And then equally the other boys and the younger lads coming up from the under 23 category are going to be pushing into that, you know, elite sphere, you know, coming out as well. So yeah, it's very much, very much focus on the task at hand and don't let and let myself get too complacent, I think. What's your, you mentioned Alec called the Brits in general being on the coast training and

\[16:42\] it sounds like they're doing some surf swim training then that's why they're here. What's your take on the LA course in the swim? I mean you guys know it pretty well now you know what you're expecting. Can it get too big? I think it can, honestly. Sean Stevens was their performance director and he sent a video across and yeah, it's quite a bit of chop and swell. Like it was probably 4 to 6 foot and wishy washy as well. So it was, it was pretty big. So I mean in the summer it's

\[17:13\] probably only getting get a little bit bigger at times as well. I'm not too sure about the breaks here, but it is a quite open and exposed beach. And the thing with that beach as well, it's, it can be quite a long run up, like probably a couple of 100 metres like on that soft sand. So that's going to be a challenge in itself right now, running up into transition, you know, with tired arms and legs. So how do you what's the same? Beach where they have the US Open of surfing, hunting. And no, that's down the coast of the earth. This has been, this is kind of more just South of, oh, just South of Santa Monica.

\[17:47\] Hang on. It's basically next. Yeah, next. Yeah, West, yeah, that area. South SS South of Yeah. But I'm. Trying to think of what coast they're on. They are. They're gonna have to clean up the weed shops and the druggies and the people. I think they're gonna have to get the sweeper out because. Where's the where's the bycourse go? So just pretty flat around the block. It hasn't been announced yet, but I'd say to be pretty flat unless they go inland, which they'd have to go a fairway inland to get to get a. Penny Well, they could go down the coast road towards Santa

\[18:18\] Monica and they've got that little. There's a kind of a suppose on ramp. You're back into Santa Monica, back around a little bit, yeah, true. They were going to have it at Long Beach. But apparently like Taylor Nib openly came out and said that she wouldn't race if it was going to be in Long Beach like she was. She was standing her foot down because it was just going to be a terrible course, like really non eventful on the bike, really simple and basic. And we don't want that for an Olympics, so. It's an exciting place. I mean, you get to run. We talked like this week, LA marathon, we're putting the Oscars had a the red carpet

\[18:48\] Oscars run in and you know you're in the heart of all that excitement. I reckon to be an amazing place to race an Olympics. I mean, everyone's special, right? In a different way. But LA Beach is gonna be something different. I just think America, like they won't not have it be 1 of the biggest spectacles in the 21st century. Like it's gonna be amazing. They're gonna put a lot into it. They're gonna have some headaches with traffic and trying to trying to navigate that because their public transportation system is not quite what Paris's is. So that'll be interesting to see what happens. But luckily we'll have the Olympic bus lane to kind of

\[19:21\] they're saying that the LA Olympics are the Gold Coast T100 of the Olympic world. That's what you know, that's the biggest. Oh, right. Yeah. Yep. Bring it back. Will you train, say, do you approach the swim any different now this far out? I'm not really. Not really, I guess just yeah, continue to craft like basic skills and it's so different because it's so course dependent, right? And you know what that beach breaks doing on the day can be completely different to what's happening at Burley Beach and whatnot. So I guess it's going to be good to get there next year and to

\[19:51\] get a look over the course and for the test event and then, you know, prepare accordingly. They debut. This just popped to mind when you talked about the Olympic bus lines that you'll have you heard the story about what they did at Sydney with the being committee when they were when the IOC visited? Hear the story about the way one of the organisers, it's folklore now that they because he had to, he was staying in the CBD of Sydney. Homebush being the centre for the Olympics. They had it planned that all green lights the whole way from

\[20:22\] the CBD out to Homebush. They had it scheduled so that this when the IC got in their cars the whole way out to the Homebush. No lights. Because if you've ever driven that as a humble citizen, it's a lot. It's a long trip, it's a Parramatta Rd. You're hitting a lot of red lights. But they had it set up so that the IOC did not encounter a single red. Light it was the same as when the games were on. I think they were communicating to everyone, get like 2 hours in advance to the public transport and was way over the top.

\[20:52\] But then it actually allowed the games to run really smoothly. Everyone had a good experience and I mean it's still one of the better ones as far as public transport goes. I think they did a good job. Getting back to the here and now, so we are, what are we? It's beginning of 2026\. You've essentially got a little over 2 years until this next Olympics. You've said it's your absolute focus. World championship, big tick, there's a big tick. But stepping stones on the way

\[21:23\] we talk about ahead of the Gold Coast Marathon. Benita has explained that anybody that signed up when the entries opened in December to stay calm. You don't need to get carried away with your training. Now you begin your 12 week cycle in April. You've got this run up that's we're talking years. How do you, aside from plotting the calendar with your coach, how do you, do you have anything that you tangibly do to, I guess keep yourself calm about the whole thing and

\[21:55\] maintain the passion and the emotions and everything that comes with this sole focus that you have? Yeah, that's a really good question. It's something that Dan and I like just recently spoke about in a little meeting of ours and he said, yeah, man, like obviously we want to go back to back and get another world championship that we've got to, we've got to recognise that it's another, you know, 2 1/2 years and a big build up towards LA And you know, it's going to take a lot out of me again, like going for a world championship campaign. So obviously got to focus on the, on the task at hand and you know, have a little goal along the way and obviously

\[22:29\] the big goal of going back to back. But yeah, for me, it's just not getting too mentally drained or caught up in the short term stuff. And obviously keeping that longevity and that drive through the, through the LA, which is, yeah, a big mission, as you said, it's one of the unique, more unique build UPS in sport for sure. So what's 26 look like for you? Have you got planned? Is that planned out yet? Yeah, it is. I'm going to race. So there's 10 races in the World Series this year, so they've added on a few more. And so I'll do 5 or 6 of them

\[22:59\] and then I'll do some more altitude work. And Endora. That really seemed to work pretty well for me last year. And from what I've heard, the more you do it, the more the more you gain from it. So that's exciting and then I'll look to do the Super try race, which will be in Jersey, which is, yeah, quite a bit of money out for the grabs. So be nice, you know, lucrative paycheck opportunity. And then we'll hustle in for the, for the World Championships, which will be in September in Spain. So, and that'll probably be my last main one. And then I'll come back and do news again likely in November and shut it down

\[23:30\] from then on in prepare for 2027\. And obviously, yeah, Olympic test event and then and then qualifying from there and. Why and Dora a lot of places you could go how why is every why is and it's not just yourself why is everyone ending up in Andorra at the. Moment not for the reasons you think for me 'cause I'm not a resident there, so I still pay 40% Australian taxes. Is it a? Bit of a tax, Hayden. I didn't know that. Yeah. So like the likes of a lot of cyclists go up there and yeah, Hayden's up there, Camworth's up there do.

\[24:00\] You want to talk more about Hayden or no? No, I didn't realise it was. I didn't know that about indoor. Yeah, indoor every day tax haven and it's only little country in pocket Yeah in Europe so and in South of the Schengen region as well. So that obviously helps us for the 90 days and getting out of that yeah, these situation as well, which is helpful. But kind of we looked at the options and with Cam there, you know, we had links with Tim Carrison at Oz Triathlon doing some, doing some

\[24:33\] work with us and he coaches Cam and suggests that we go to indoor. And forumo is, you know, synonymous in the triathlon, running, Cycling World as a, as a mainstay on the on the altitude calendar. So a lot of people do go there and it does tend to be get a bit clunky and busy. So we thought we'd kind of yeah, try something new and or new ish for us and go to indoor and try that out. Yeah, And feel like anyone listening along who you know, as an amateur runner, just give us a bit more of an explanation on, oh, from your understanding, I

\[25:03\] sort of probably, you know, it's obviously pretty new for yourself, but how does it help? How do you go about it, this altitude stuff that you know most amateur runners hear about but probably have no idea? For sure, yeah. I mean I've only got basic knowledge of it really but I know it makes me quicker. So that's a good thing. That's the main thing you. Sound like the people taking proteins and all the supplements are. I feel bad. All above. Board. All above board, all water approved now. Well, we stay at 2000 metres. So that's kind of, yeah, good for us. And I guess just, it's essentially the creation of more

\[25:36\] red blood cells, right. But that's what you go up to the thinner air for you put your body under more stress in and around those training periods. It's probably not dissimilar to really hot and humid conditions like we have on the Gold Coast, right? You know, like they call it's bit of an annoying term, but it's a poor man's altitude. It's, you know, the heat stimulus that you, that you do get does stress your body. And you know, the same fact that like a 30 minute sauna would equate to, you know, 6K jog, you know, it's the same, you know, just sleeping and living in altitude, you

\[26:07\] know, would equate to extra fitness on top of what you're already doing. So. And know for people who've just heard that and like me again, oh great, I don't need to run 6 hours. It's not the exact. Not quite the same though. You still got to do your bone, your bone loading and all that stuff on a pavement. But in terms of like aerobic capacity, like building that up it does have similar effects. But I think, yeah, for us, you know, that 2000 metre mark has been really good. That 3 1/2 week period you can easily stuff yourself an altitude along with the heat obviously like you can, you can

\[26:39\] really do damage. But if you take your time and build into a slowly and you have specific sessions in around that block and a lot of easy stuff as well, yeah, you can really, you know, so. It's not noticeably a little bit of an easier. You are moving easier while you're up there, as in you're not doing the intensity. Yeah, you're probably a little bit easier, but then in the in those intense sessions, you'd be doing like faster for shorter. Yeah. So you'd be really like engaging those VO2 systems and,

\[27:11\] and trying to expand your capacity through that way, which is my understanding of it. But then also speaking with Tim Kerrison, he would obviously Team Sky coach for many years and their success period. You know, he's, he talked about the theory of some people gulped altitude to race fast and then also some people gulped altitude to train fast. So to basically to increase their capacity to then go down to sea level to then train at another level to then prepare for race, you know, at a greater capacity. So it's an interesting,

\[27:42\] you know, journey I'm going on, you know, taking off all these, you know, 5/10/20 percent is to get me better. But yeah, it's certainly worked last year. So we'll keep doing it. What's Kosciusko? How high is up it's about? 2122\. Oh yeah, 24 couldn't. Just go hang out. You couldn't just go hang out there, Yeah. But you can't. You can't. That's a, that's a peak. That's the top of the top, right, So. That's right. So it's all downhill. Yeah, you can't do three hour, 4 hour rides. Gotcha. That is the same Dallas. Well, you mentioned that some of lots of other triathletes use Andora as a base.

\[28:15\] Do you train with them or do you like because it's this line of and this is what's so fascinating about individual sports versus the team sports is team sports. You train as a team and you keep whatever IP you've got hidden in these individual pursuits. Inevitably you end up training alongside competitors. You're in the same squad as Braden Mercer and you train here locally and where's the line of the people that you will train with won't train with, exchange ideas with, exchange IP with from a training

\[28:46\] perspective? I'm honestly an open book, so like I'd happily train with anyone we like. We did do stuff with some stuff with Hayden up there. We did a lot of stuff with Cam up there. We spent, we sent base, we spent basically 4 hours on his wheel, like just holding like 300, three, 150 watts when we did this try nations like they got this loop where it goes through Spain, France and Endora. So it's 130K and you click on three nations in the meantime. You can't do that in Cosy. You definitely can't do that. Maybe 3 sites in Australia would

\[29:17\] take a lot longer than a lot longer. Than that, but so you're trying with, you're trying with anybody. Yeah, well, yeah, if I like them. Yeah, if you. Want. I mean, you, Strava, you've got everything exactly right. Yeah, everything on Strava, like, yeah, my email I guess is like if people are more worried about what you're doing and they've already stuffed up. So yeah, and you can do it. You can do what than anyone else is doing, but without purpose and belief in what you're truly doing. It's a different kind of kettle of fish, so. Projecting forward in your mind, the biggest competitor

\[29:50\] challenges come LA is still Alex and Hayden. I'd say so, yeah. There is a few guys, obviously Miguel Hidalgo and Vasco Velasa that they were just being really consistent and gone up to another level last year as well. Ollie Conway is another Brit that came through and got gold at the end of 20 threes last year. He's like 2122\. He also got fourth in a World Series race last year against the elites and the big dogs as well. So there's certainly a lot of talent coming through. David Quintero, he ran sub 29 off the bike and Wollongong.

\[30:22\] So there's there is a plethora of challenges coming out to LA, but I wouldn't have it any other way. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool when we talk about obviously triathlon, but running as well and we're starting to see these marks be lower. Jack Ryan has just dipped down and broken the half marathon world record. We've chess has just broken the marathon world, the marathon Australian record for women. Do you while you're in it and I'm and I'm putting you in with the runners. Do you guys realise or do you look at what's happening now

\[30:55\] and think we're having a moment? 100% yeah, we are definitely having a moment. Yeah. I think second guy to go under, yes, 60 1/2\. Obviously Jess coming back from having another kid. She's pregnant again. And yeah, just pregnancy powers. That's all they say, Izzi Batt-Doyle like killing it. I spent the day with her down in Sydney for an ASICS launch, shoe launch there as well. So yeah, just so many runners and obviously Jess doing what she does on the world stage and you know, taking

\[31:27\] to the Africans is yeah, it's kind of amazing to see. And we are in a bit of a golden era of a middle distance and long distance running in Australia. It is really cool. To see. Do you have a theory why at the moment? What? I don't know, honestly it, I think the culture down in Melbourne is really strong, like the running culture down in Melbourne. So I think that success breed success down there. So they're having a real moment there. And obviously with everyone kind of, you know, the rising tide raises all ships and

\[31:57\] whatnot. So I guess the globalisation of the sport, the probably the appreciation for endurance sports now in Australia is growing post COVID and the running boom and you know, the shoe technology and all that's come with that. So yeah, it's a really exciting time for runners and you know, Hyrox athletes. I was about to say it's very it's very humble of you to acknowledge the shoe technology, the progression and then you have to shove the Hyrox. I just I. Just said it was a new. We will talk about it later or this week.

\[32:28\] Not with me, no, not with me. It's a new Hyrox shoe that just came out and the stack's high. Is that the Adidas one? Yeah, that's it. Just quickly, to cross-breed, Matt Hauser's second appearance on the podcast with one of my schemes from a couple of weeks ago, you mentioned the Melbourne running world and the Melbourne culture, the Tan. Have you run the Tan? I have run the Tan, what's your time? Not fast, I've just jogged up.

\[32:59\] bit of a bit of a climb so OK and running hard on gravel is not for the faint heart as well. It tears up your hammies so. OK, tell me what you think of this because they do have a the Tan. I'm now well we have been told by enough people that there is a proper race thing that goes on there. Do you think as an elite, if they have a race and I think it's a morning race, it's a day thing, right? Do you think you could run a better time if there was a an evening race where it was? That whole tan track was a la

\[33:33\] Elliot with Breaking 2 was purely set up to try and help you run and break Craig Mottram's record. I wouldn't be able to go near buses record at all. No. But I would say that I would perform better at night. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I much do prefer a night racing. I'm telling you, Courtney, this is just to catch you up, man. I had an idea the other day and I was running around the Tan and I was looking at Craig's time and I was thinking, why don't they have a big event where it's set up to have somebody try and break the record?

\[34:04\] Yeah. And Courtney was like, they do have. Less around there and I'm gonna do the same thing right now but coming back locally. I'm just. Saying bringing it back more local, yes. Why are you running around Palm Beach and war? And that's my first question. The second question is what is the actual true favourite spot to run on the Gold Coast? Yeah. Or what do you think the best spot is to run on the Gold? Coast, I honestly think the foreshore from like Currumbin down to like Cooley. It's good, yeah. So. Good, now that I open up the path and pavement bashing is pretty monotonous at some

\[34:34\] stages. But you know, if the wind's down and the sun's out and the waves are rolling, then there's not too many other better places to be honest. But careful though 'cause I got clicked by a couple of kids on their ebikes. Yeah, smack me on the back of the head. They need to be put. I wish you'd been there. You would've been able to chase them down. I had. No, but really. Talk about this, did you see the guy at Luke Harrop who got Yeah, have you seen this? Yeah, I had a blow to blow up on the radio show about it. Oh, earlier this week. Got the concrete. Well, because I was talking to Ray and talking to Edsie and they trained out there.

\[35:05\] And yeah, it's I had a theory. You trained out there. You tell me what you think first before I do. You think, well, we've been on crits Wednesday, world crits on Wednesday night. Yeah. But it's just been it's normally like alternate weeks in the rain. Runaway Bay. Yeah. But we can't go to Runaway Bay because there's been like crashes. Because he likes have got involved with crashes and riding up alongside and doing honing stuff. Really. Yeah. Grace Henry, a young female triathlete, got taken out there last year. So they've just been doing the rang, which sucks for me because 80 kilos going up that hill

\[35:37\] every time, it's not good for the. For the morale. It's also not good for your morale, It's good for fitness. It's very good. Tough. It is a tough course. I came up with an idea about these kids because these kids and their E bikes, they'll find them and they'll do all the rest of it. I left field theory. If you are a kid that gets busted on your E bike, you're not going to pay the fine. Your parents are going to want to be the fine. Add six months on to when they can get their driver's licence, their car driver's licence.

\[36:07\] That's good. So if you're a 14 year old that gets pinned, you go no worries mate, you're a 14 year old kid, you've made a mistake. But you can't get your licence until six months after all your mates now and then if you get caught again, it just adds up. So, but we might have a whole generation of kids that can't drive till they're 25\. Maybe make them do 300 hours instead of 120, a 150 or whatever. Like on the learning hours. Yeah. Oh, just add another 100 hours to it. That's good too. That can be faked as well. See, he's not happy about this, as the father of a young guy who's about to take. His young I would just say the idea is warranted.

\[36:39\] Now you just got to go to council, you've got to become a counsellor. Liam, that's next. I can't be bothered. No, I've got too many. Skills. But back to Palmy, because I've got watches do this Palmy loop all the time and there's not just you, there's a few clubs and I'm like, I like the kilometre strip. I'm not sure about the rest of it. What's the deal with running through there? Is that I know I bring this up mate. It's because you made Tim Rigby has probably run quicker than you may run over 5K around that same course mate. And I think you're pretty worried about it. He's pretty.

\[37:09\] He's rent free. He's rent free in your head as well. Oh, he is. And I pace him through to it, but I tell you what he I don't think he needed. Me, I don't know he really well, I just haven't brought this up. That's my main competitor for T110K. He's your gym coach. He's my gym coach who's maths. Full disclosure, after we, I don't know if it was after we spoke to Matt or it might have been even Dan in here, but I heard all this and then obviously I knew Tim from other ways, Alex Rigby's brother and that and I'm like, hey, if you can't beat them, join them.

\[37:42\] So he's been my resident expert that I refer to quite often and you know, obviously done a lot of good work with Matt, but that's who I need to race and Matt has been helping me out, which I'm not happy about. Slight. I wouldn't say helping, I'd say, well, he's helping me out. He's helping and so is he pacing you. No, he's not pacing. Me, maybe I need maybe I need to give him a pacer for me. Maybe. Yeah, Pacer. Yeah, I've got Alex here. You've got Tim, Rudy. What will be your strategy in the T110K race? How will you run it?

\[38:13\] I'm at a bit of a crossroads because like Abu Dhabi is the next weekend, obviously a really big race on the calendar and flying out, doing a, doing a long haul flight on the Tuesday off the race. So like I want to, I want to have a really good race and have a good time, But if it means busting my ass and blowing my body up it's not going to be worth it. So I think for me, I just want to go out, you know, at a strong conservative pace, you know, maybe around that 202830 to 29 mark somewhere in between there. And if I can kick down and finish strongly for PV, then that would be nice.

\[38:44\] But yeah, I'm not really putting anything or too many, too much pressure on it. And if there is pace at the front, I might try and go with it. But we'll just have to wait and. See what's the PB? Just so we get a little. The PB is 2916 off the ball. And that was what you did. So I haven't really yeah, try off on PB so you haven't broken 29\. No, I haven't broken 20, have you? Yeah. Over 5K. Over 5K? Yeah, every 7\. That's a golden response. I hate you know what?

\[39:15\] Have you have you used that one before? Just like this is just a way of this is the one thing that I don't like about being me in the world I operate in is 'cause I get that the amount of times if I'm ever doing an AFL game. And I asked Richard Champion something about premierships, He's like, how many games of footy did you? Yeah. It's that's a good it's a it's a good world champ tips. You got guys and girls running this 10K with you all behind you. Give us some tips like how do you approach the race

\[39:46\] over 10K to get the pacing right? Is there anything at the end of the race you use like when you're getting tired mentally that got cues or something that you switch on? Yeah, it's a it's a good one, good one. It's like considering I haven't run too many fresh 10 KS, it's probably a little bit of an anomaly for me to be honest as well. Like I get off the bike and I'm already at 16170 heart rate. So how will you approach it when it's fresh? Yeah, it's a good question. I think like the first 5K does, I reckon has to be easy. Well, not easy, but like

\[40:17\] conservative and you can't be, you know, lactating too much in the legs. So at that 677 and a half 8K mark, that's when it's probably going to start kicking in at about that 3/4 of the way through. So I think that's where the mental threshold is going to going to challenge some people. But yeah, if you can leave enough in the tank where we can split it, you know, at least even or not too not too slow than your first five. And then that would be, that would be the most ideal thing like any other running race, I guess, But.

\[40:47\] And when you when you get on a plane two days later, what's how do you recover in between getting on, preparing yourself for a long haul flight and finishing off a non elite 10K race? Yeah, I guess warm down and massage and making sure, you know, fueling right and whatnot and wearing, you know, compression. Stuff. You will do all that stuff. Yeah. Really make a big point in that because yeah, long haul travellers does take a bit out of you for sure. I hear about all the 40 teams complaining about heading out of Perth. I'm like, how about your head out of Europe, you know, every

\[41:19\] couple times a year, so. Have you heard of Andorra? Yeah. Exactly right. No most. People be like no. Yeah, he plays front row, doesn't he? For the roads. I'm shoe plugs what do you choose for a 10K? Yeah, good question. Actually I've kind of been trying a few ones from ASICS, of course. Yeah, shout out ASICS. Yep. She's those new Superblast 3\. Hey, I gave you the runway. Yeah, no, you did. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I run in the sky, ASICS Metaspeed Sky. I think just for me, I'm not a cadence runner.

\[41:51\] I'm kind of like a force in the ground reaction top runner. So I do need a little bit more of that plate assistance in my running stride. So I feel like the sky does give me that bit more of a wind up. The edge are really nice as well. I've tried them before, a little bit softer under foot. And then again the rays are just like super soft and light, probably a little bit too soft for me. I think at this stage. I did troll them in that 10K specific session I did on Tuesday around Tallebudgera Drive Loop. And maybe, yeah, maybe it's a little bit too soft.

\[42:21\] Just when I got to those faster paces, you know, 250 or below. So I think yeah, for me, I'll stick to the sky for now. So. How often in those training sessions are you running in your race shoots? Like every key session, you'll be in plaited shoes or. Probably not every key session like a lot of last year I was actually running track sessions and my Superblast 2's just 'cause they were nice and stiff and you know, a good amount of cushion as well so. Running short champions, Yeah, Superblast. That's what I'm running the. Threes The threes are even better.

\[42:51\] I think that I. Wouldn't I? Wouldn't know actually. Yeah, well, you'll know. You know, it'd start a March made, but I think the threes are going to be probably more used for like longer tempo kind of stuff, less lack of workload because they're moving the Megablast into that kind of space where it's like a real session shoe. But yeah, I'd either be wearing the Megablast, I'd say ASICS Megablast, or if I'm doing a real specific session I'd probably do like once a week in my carbons. You get your carpets, yeah.

\[43:21\] How long you been with ASICS now? Honestly, like 9 years, yeah, 910 years since I was 1718 so. A lot of time. Listen up ASICS, we've got a world champ, we've got a news champ. This man needs his own colorway. We need no, we need to get. You've got the ASICS guy, that's what you're running in, correct? Yeah, Metaspeed Sky. Yeah. Why can't we do a Matt Hauser colourway? Why can't we do or at least get a one off pair? I'm not bigger than the brand mate.

\[43:51\] I'm not saying you're bigger than the brand. But they do surely shoes every year. Surely we get the even if it's a one of one that you just for you, surely ASICS would. It's not like we're getting you to redesign a shoe. We're not asking for a line. We're just saying a Matt Hauser colourway potentially. I will say one thing like I do remember looking at some memorabilia one day and I think it was like either Snowy's or Moffy's shoe that was like embroidered with their nickname on the on the back of one of their races, which is which is

\[44:22\] really cool. And then ASICS after the world championship in news. So they actually presented and gave me a custom pair which had like the Australian flag instead of world champion. Oh, that OK, which is which is really cool. So that's. Hey say that before I make an idiot of yes but. Colourway. Feel free to jump in man. We'll take the colourway though. That's. What would the colourway be? Oh geez, well my fiance now is a graphic designer and a freelance one of that sort of. If anyone needs any graphic design work, you can shout. Out. Well, I asked. Bugs. Yeah, but I'd have to ask

\[44:54\] her, 'cause she's the queen of colours. She's the stylist, yeah. I was off the back of that and you just gave us, we're not gonna put down the ASICS one, but what was the cause? After becoming world champion? I saw you got bikes and all the different stuff that with the world champ colours. What's been your favour? OK, you're gonna have to pick and choose here, but we're gonna put on yellow. What's been the most unique one that you've got? Haha that's sick. I think definitely the bike. I think the bike was really cool, but then I rocked up to create and I realised I was at Wednesday worlds with a world championship frame in a

\[45:26\] sport that I only do 1/3 of really. So I felt like a bit of a cheat up. And then also my mate Ryan Fischer, obviously fellow Olympian, He's he owns Solia, A cycling brand company. And yes, sorted me out with a custom kit as well with the rainbow stripes and Georgia helped design that as well. So yeah, just some cool perks of the of the title. But yeah, all those niceties are great, but I'm going to have to lock in and try and enter it all again this year. How's the have you been swimming in a tally? A little bit I did you.

\[45:58\] Still doing most of your stuff at Miami? I'd say, I'd say Somerset, actually. We do. Oh. Sorry, Somerset. Yeah. So Somerset school, yeah. And then if we were to do like an open water session, we'd either go burly with Clado or yeah. Or maybe Tallebudgera. A Creek, Yeah. It's the, this whole concept of the ocean swim, which seems like, because it feels like prior to the last 12 months, the idea of ocean swimming for Olympic triathlons was, I know well, you can't do it there because it has to be a flat water swim. And now it's just, you mentioned LA in the conditions now it's

\[46:30\] just accepted that this is just going to be part of the future of the sport, which I think is so exciting. And the, as you mentioned, the Brits down here having to do all this swim training as well and look complete bias for the Aussies. It's brilliant. Absolutely and we need to do something about this for bruising 2032, because ultimately that's probably looking like it's going to be in the Gold Coast. So for us to well, there's conversations going on behind scenes at the moment. That perfect, ideal

\[47:01\] situation would be like barely telebotry. That would be that would be honestly an amazing spectacle. Whether they can like pull it off. You know my SO. How do you do that swim? Well, the thing, the unique thing about the Olympics and the triathlon as well as you have to cater for the para triathletes as well. So they can't necessarily be going into 6 foot surf. So, OK, mind you, winter, it's going to be a little like I'd say smaller. Small as well will be down. And down and calmer as well.

\[47:32\] So we might be in with a shop, but yeah, potentially starting a Creek and then wrap around or maybe a point to point that would be such an amazing spectral, like so good. You'd obviously have to get the tide times right and whatnot. But yeah, if we can make that work, that'll be a lot better than the Broadwater I think, which is, you know, been the traditional placement for, you know, the 28 income games was race there and the Lucarat Triathlon is still race there to this day. So but it would be cool to get in amongst a bit of the surf and away from the bull sharks. So where does the where does the bike?

\[48:05\] Obviously you head out the back, you can go anywhere, it's undecided yet. Where would the run go, where would you like the run to go? If it's at Burleigh, let's say we assume they figure out a swim, where would you like the run? What's the question I guess I'm asking is what's the finish line, where are you busting the tape and taking gold, where are we going to have that photo of Matt Hauser? Well, the tram works might still be going then in 2032, so we can't really have it on the Gold Coast Highway.

\[48:35\] No, there's the incentive to get it done. Yeah, exactly right. Six years from now, but I mean somewhere in the headline would be would be awesome. They even spoke about maybe like doing the same as Paris and maybe having transition on the bridge there and then having the finish line there as well, which would be amazing. The re routed traffic would have to be done. And then also if you're running along Burley or something like that, they'd have to do something about the hordes of activewear where is along the front there as well. So there's gonna have to be a lot of redirection of traffic.

\[49:08\] Hey, if you can't do it for the Olympic Games, what can you do it well. You just made me think when you said the course could go anywhere, because I was when Burley was mentioned. Yeah, I was thinking, I mean, there's hills, but then there's that cracker over the back of Koala Park, isn't there? Yeah. That true? It would be. It would be over like around flies. Yeah. No, but not the one people run up flies. But if you went the other direction, there's. Like a real. Cracker Yeah, that would be over. I'd have to be 20% that'd. Be hectic, yeah? That could. Cause chaos. Let's not, let's not put that. In you don't want that in the

\[49:38\] house under. That's too early that. Might be when you're 8218 the 80K border we'll later that one there. If I'm doing enough to rank crit so Wednesday worlds I might be ready for it, but. How much, how much? And obviously clearly there's conversations happening behind the scenes that I'm not a part of, but how much does the organising committee, the AOC Triathlon Australia, how much do they involve you in these discussions as the world champion? It's probably me just sending them emails and

\[50:08\] annoying them just like pleading them that they can, they can do a lot better with, you know, the real estate that they've got on the Gold Coast. But now it's probably more of those conversations happening with our performance director Sean Stevens, and then you know, with the, with the, you know, greater organising committee and the IOCIOC etcetera. So, yeah, there's definitely higher ups that have way more of a say than me, but I'm trying to prompt those conversations every time I do speak to the higher ups, I am kind of saying we should be doing something about this because ultimately, you know, we

\[50:41\] need to be advantaging, you know, the Aussie athletes and the way we do that is get in the swell. Not to compare to LeBron James, but when the Lakers want to make a decision about player personnel, they talk to LeBron and he's just a basketballer. Yeah. I feel like if they're having these conversations, like the Indian curators for the cricket matches go up to Virat Kohli and the rest of the team, say, how do you want the pitchers to look? And they say, we want them to be dead slow and turn at right angles. Why wouldn't we go and ask Matt Hauser, what track would you like to win? Olympic gold. 100% makes sense

\[51:12\] we've done all the work to pitch for this thing. We've spent how much money we're tearing up the roads left, right and centre. Let's go and ask the athletes how they want this thing to look. Yep. That's it. That's it. Well, we're going to see you. It won't be too long now on the start line of the T100\. What are we? OK, hold on. Finished pose T110K. Let's say you do take it out. What are we? What are we rolling with? If you pull the guns out, yeah. True. The Sillies. Is that worth? Is it worth? Hold on, what? What happened at Noosa?

\[51:42\] The guns, no, no, no, the gun, it wasn't the guns, it was the Will Ashcroft belt, because I was the world champion at that stage, so I put the belt on like he does after he kicks the goal. So a little bit of a shout out to the Lions that won the premiership, two-time Norm Smith. Yeah, absolutely, he's rolling. Have you seen him recently? No, I saw him, there was a footy match last night that I watched, he's rolling a terrible goatee, he needs to, that's not Will, I think

\[52:12\] Will's a he. Will's a handsome young man and he's a stylish rooster, but that's not his. Look, keep the belt on. Keep the belt shape, the shape, the thing. Yeah, alright. Like, well, maybe, OK, there's an incentive for people to that aren't running to get down for the 10K race. Yeah. If you want to see what Matt Hauser's T110K race celebration will be, you can see his mind ticking over his thinking about it. Well, I'm just thinking I've got to try and win it first. Now you put the pressure. In Matt Hauser, absolute pleasure to have you join us again, the two time guest, the

\[52:42\] first returning guest we've had, but also to have you in the T110 kilometre race. I'm so excited. And as if for the Nuffy's out there, the real diehards keep an eye out for Olympic champ Alex Yee with a pacer Bibon. Maybe we'll see. We'll maybe leave that up to me. I'll try and do it. Enough brunches and coffee shouter. We'll see what we could do. Matt, thanks. You coming buddy? Cheers guys.