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# EP51 - RED BULL HAT RULES • TOMMY FURY T100 • TRAIL HEADPHONES • NOOSA BIKE 101
- URL: https://www.inthebeginningpodcast.com/ep51-red-bull-hat-rules-tommy-fury-t100-trail-headphones-noosa-bike-101/
- Published: 2025-09-12T06:00:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-08-20T11:02:50.000Z
- Description: Courtney Atkinson and Liam Flanagan on Noosa Triathlon, parkrun, trail running — recorded on the Gold Coast.
- Author: Courtney Atkinson
- Tags: Episodes, Main Feed, Triathlon, Running Training, Trail Running, #Import 2026-07-28 20:58

*Courtney Atkinson and Liam Flanagan on Noosa Triathlon, parkrun, trail running — recorded on the Gold Coast.*

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\[00:00\] In the beginning, episode 51\. Next week is one year out — the podcast turns one, Courtney. Time flies, doesn't it? It really does. Do you think we're going to make a year? Yeah, I didn't know if we'd make year two. Well, things are going great, I'm excited, we've got this. For those that missed it, the first Road to Noosa Triathlon episode dropped on Wednesday. If you're a would-be triathlete, or if you know somebody that's racing, Noosa is interested in triathlon.

\[00:32\] The episode that dropped on Wednesday was with Dan Atkins, the best triathlon coach in Australia. Send it to him — he's currently... well, Matt Hauser? No, no, currently he's the number one triathlon coach in Australia. Yes, go and check out the episode, send it on to your friends, it's a great way to get a sense of what Noosa presents as a race. It's going to be a lot of fun exploring next week — running specific, we've got riding and swimming specific coming as well. So next week will be swimming, and of course more to come in

\[01:04\] the series. Can we say the guests? No, OK, we'll keep that as we've got some — we have got some really exciting guests. If you think triathlon in Australia, other than Courtney Atkinson, they're going to be a part of this series, which is really exciting. Can we start with a question that's come from William Reid? I want to start today for people out there — William Reid messaged the pod on

\[01:34\] Instagram a couple of weeks back, and I only just saw it because it went into one of those general questions folders and all that sort of stuff. Anyway, William Reid said: hi, really random question, but for ages I've been looking to find where to buy the Red Bull cap Courtney wears in lots of the videos, but I've never been able to find it — any chance you can share where or how you got it? Now I know this story but I want you to share it with the podcast. It's an interesting one. I'm surprised he hasn't seen a fakey one turn up on eBay

\[02:04\] or somewhere. You go and make your own, I'm sure. No, well, I mean, Red Bull's unique in that way with their athletes — their merchandise, or let's say their specific caps and equipment like the helmets you'd see at the Tour de France, or one of the cycling teams like Bora-Hansgrohe wearing the helmets. They keep that gear for only their signed athletes. So we've talked a lot about Nike going back to being athlete-first — this is, I suppose, Red Bull's way of being really exclusive about

\[02:36\] who they support, which generally are the world's best. Like, I'm wearing a hat right now, but there's been a twenty-year relationship going back to when I started with them as a teenager at the world junior championships, and it's built from there. And yeah, they've held true right through to today — you can only get it in Sydney. Actually, I've been into the same cupboard in Japan, and for some reason they had better stuff in Japan. I don't know why, but yeah, it's different — I guarantee if a Japanese Red

\[03:08\] Bull athlete came down to the Australian cupboard, they'd go, oh, your stuff's so much... why have you got bucket hats? Just different. But yeah, there's a cupboard that's under lock and key and literally has that athlete-only equipment, and specifically those hats. So you can go onto a website and buy team gear from an F1 team, the ice hockey teams, the soccer teams, football teams, all of that — but the athlete stuff, yeah, still only you have to earn it. You have to earn it.

\[03:39\] There's a great article — if I remember, I'll put it in the notes — by Jason Paul, who's a free runner, a Red Bull free-running athlete. He wrote a great article for anyone, any time a young athlete asks him, 'how do I get sponsored by Red Bull?' He said, I've had that question a hundred times, so I now just send them this article from Jason Paul, because it explains exactly the pathway to becoming a Red Bull athlete. And it doesn't happen overnight — there's a whole process, according

\[04:09\] to it. And you know, I suppose from the young athletes' point of view, it's all about putting themselves forward in the right way — it's not just about results. Tell me if anything I ask goes into territory you can't answer, because — no, no, it's seriously interesting, I thought you were going to shoot some of my questions down. No, I'm still going to answer. So I think, to answer William's original question: yep, you can't buy the real hat. You can't go and buy one of these hats — you can go and make a fake

\[04:40\] one, though. We discourage it, but in short, the answer is you have to earn it. Molly Picklum — yep, just won the world title — yeah, crazy. She surfs in a Red Bull helmet, and when she was over at Cloudbreak, she's the sort of athlete who — yep, so she surfs in that Red Bull helmet, and then it's rare that you see her do an interview without the Red Bull cap on. You obviously wear the hat when we do the podcast every week, and even when we were down there

\[05:11\] with AG1 in Sydney the other weekend, you still had the Red Bull hat on. What's the requirement, can you talk about that? Yeah, to a degree. How much can you tell us, because if you sign on — Travis, an AFL player I'm a big fan of, he's now retired, he's always got the Red Bull cap on as well — what are the expectations of a Red Bull athlete as far as representing the brand? Yeah, well, just like, say, a Kenyan-specialised bike sponsor sponsors a bike, you get to wear the bike, right? So first and foremost, you've got to

\[05:43\] drink the can — drinking the drink is more important than anything. But then, I suppose — it's no secret, right, I'm not letting any secrets out of the bag here — what Red Bull have done so well since their inception, well before I was involved with them, is they realised that it doesn't matter whether you're an athlete on the field, in the car, on the bike, or in an interview — what's the one thing you never don't see? Their face — your head, your head.

\[06:15\] So when all these brands go after, you know, 'I want my logo on your shirt', or 'I want background LED', whatever it is — the one thing no one can ever cut out of the imagery is your head. So why not own your head? That's really clever. So you've got a bike, a bike helmet, a car, a race helmet, you're surfing — your wave, you now wear a helmet too. Hey, I don't know about Molly,

\[06:46\] but maybe it's not quite like that — yeah, but a lot of it is. OK, and just on that, because I guess for the young athletes, who I imagine Red Bull would be right up there for, particularly in the extreme sports, as an individual sponsorship goal to try and get — have you ever heard of, or seen, an athlete having the reality broken to them that they're just not good enough? Yeah, I haven't.

\[07:17\] I haven't seen that, no, no, no, no. But are you aware of athletes who've just been told, sorry, you don't actually meet the benchmark to be a Red Bull athlete — either after the fact, or leading up to it, where the harsh reality's been told to them, 'sorry, Red Bull is the pointy end of sport, that's who we go after'? Well, I don't really — I mean, you'd never quite get to that situation. I think there's always probably — and this is all brands,

\[07:49\] this isn't just Red Bull, this would be all brands — you know, you want to get to know someone first, and as you get to know them you go through that courting process, and that can get pretty far down the road. But that could also break down just because of, like, a manager going 'I want more money' — well, that's commercial sponsorship, of course. The manager asks for a hat and you say the deal-breaker is 'I want a hat as well', maybe. But there's a reality where conversations

\[08:20\] go a certain way with athletes to a point, and you think everything's good, everything's good, and then it just doesn't quite get across the line. I don't think that's just the reality of sport, is it? Look, as I said, William asked the question — I knew the story about the exclusivity, that you have to earn the hat, you can't buy the hat, and I love it, I think it's very, very cool, and it's cool to get to sit across from someone who's earned the hat and still wears it. Question for you — if you go beyond your running

\[08:55\] years, will you stop wearing that? That's a good question — because they can't take the hat back, can they? Yeah, they can take it back. No, they can't. OK, so you mean they can't take them out of the cupboard? I was going to say, because I know there's some in the cupboard there. Yeah. Can I, if I decide to go as Courtney Atkinson for Halloween, can I borrow a hat? Sure, sure. Actually, one day I might try and do this, get the hats' past life — before we talk a lot about

\[09:27\] running: helmets were the really fun ones, because over the years, depending on what event it was — like, obviously in the beginning it was all around Olympic-distance triathlon, so it was just a standard road helmet and it was pretty stock standard. But then when you'd race an Olympic Games, you couldn't have any logos on your helmet, so I've got helmets out there that are just blue and silver with nothing on them. The Olympic rules got to a point where we just had blue, so it was pretty much because we had

\[09:59\] helmets that were just blue with Australian flags, but still Red Bull helmets underneath. But as I went through, then I had time-trial helmets, I've got a whitewater kayaking helmet from when I raced Coast to Coast that's been painted up, and then more recently a heap of mountain bike helmets. If I ever go through those, that's probably an interesting story, because each one has its own story, and a few of them had some pretty decent accidents and never got used again. Sounds like we've got another trip to the Courtney Atkinson Museum on the way,

\[10:29\] which is exciting. Look, we are going to get into some running, but can we stay with triathlon for a moment? Yep, play. Do you know who Tommy Fury is? I thought it was the other Fury when you told me first — Tyson Fury — but now I've seen it, yes. Tyson Fury, the Gypsy King, his younger brother Tommy is also a boxer — some people might know him from his fight against Jake Paul. He's not on his brother Tyson's level, but Tommy is a boxer-slash-reality-TV-star now, with the

\[11:02\] T100 coming to the Gold Coast — we're really excited about this, this event's going to be fantastic. It's obviously a series, the Triathlon World Tour exists overseas already, but it's coming to the Gold Coast next year, which is great. Tommy Fury took part in the T100 in the French Riviera. Now, before I give you any other information, this is Tommy after he finished the race: 'it was amazing, honestly, I felt like towards the end I was just in my own world. In boxing you don't know what

\[11:33\] to prepare for, whereas with this you know full well you've got to do it, so it's even more taxing.' Endless memes here — I had no idea there was going to be a feeling I'd have in about fifteen minutes; once I came round a little bit, I'm going to feel on top of the world, everybody get yourself up, get training, and get it. T100, 100-kilometre distance, so it's a 2K swim, an 80K bike ride, and an 18K run. After the race Tommy posted, 'I left it all out in the French Riviera, 100-kilometre triathlon on ten days' training, completed, tick.' Now,

\[12:04\] wait, what's the story, Courtney Atkinson — the question I have for you is: do you think he should take that post down, given that it's now come out that he didn't finish the bike? He didn't finish the bike. He did not — how did he get to run? So the reports are that certain athletes weren't going to make the cutoff time for the 80-kilometre bike ride, and so they were permitted to just

\[12:34\] join the run. Right? So his data has come up that he stopped after 48 kilometres, but it wasn't his fault — he hasn't cheated. He hasn't cheated, OK, so there's — very clearly he hasn't cheated. You're probably not a guy you want to get on the wrong side of, is he, Tommy? No, he hasn't cheated, but he hasn't finished the race, right? So should he have disclosed that? Oh, so this is a disclosure

\[13:05\] question. Is he lying, or is he failing to disclose — or is that the same thing? Oh geez, I mean, what do you think — can he claim to be a finisher? This is a bit like you asking me: should he take it down? I'm of the opinion, if you don't want to see it, don't look at it. True, great, OK. So if you're one of these people who has a problem with it, great, great perspective. Do you think he can claim to be a T100 finisher?

\[13:37\] He didn't even do half of it, he missed out on half the course. Yeah, I mean, it's a big call. Big call. There's plenty — it makes me think of the stories around when an Ironman event doesn't have a swim because of the swim conditions. And there's been some major Ironmans where this has happened — swim conditions, either water quality, and it turns into a duathlon. Are you an Ironman in my mind? No. Yeah, no.

\[14:09\] And I know it's not your fault, but no — that's the question. It's the same question. I'll put it in that boat. Well, I'm saying Tommy didn't complete the rest of the bike out of his own accord, and then ran, and then claimed he did it — that's a whole different story. But this is like the event said, this was the reason, and the reason was he was so far behind on a time perspective. OK, so I would say to Tommy: good on you, but I think in failing to disclose,

\[14:40\] you've misled — definitely you have misled. I think the first thing you should have been saying, to a lot of people, because of who you are and the profile you have, is 'hey guys, I didn't actually get the finish because of where I was at, still, what an amazing event.' You know what I would say to Tommy? Come on down to the Gold Coast. Yeah, come, seriously, come down here, you'll have a ball. Come on the podcast, have a chat about your athletic crew with us, and finish the full thing on the Goldie next year. Yep, there you go, I mean that's the answer, right? Go and do it again.

\[15:11\] Open invitation. But let's not get hung up, because it was the event who did it — that's from what I read, it's not a case of Tommy just parking his bike three laps early, probably. Probably always a good lesson not to believe everything you see on social media, including some of the stuff we talk about, Liam. Yeah, absolutely. Do you want to talk — can we talk about Chase the Five for a moment? Yep. Chase the Five — now if you don't remember this, give us a rundown, because I'm not really across it. Let's backtrack a little

\[15:42\] bit — we often talk about the future of running here, and what it looks like as far as events go, in particular you and I've got — yeah, no, I'm not going as far as the future of running, this — no, no, this is another one. But we talk about the idea of what running might turn into, with the boom of running and the flow-on effects. It's already turned into it. Yeah, this is just another one of those events — Night of the PBs is an AG1 event they put on in Sydney, and this was the first LSKD

\[16:13\] Chase the Five event, and we were curious to know how it would go. It was held up in Brisbane at the uni track there. Gareth Watkins, big fan of the podcast — Gareth actually hit me up about the Deek's Quarters programme, wanted to know, he wanted to start giving it a crack. He ran Chase the Five and said 'please let me know how it went so I can share it on the pod.' Great event, full turnout, he said — I think this will be even bigger next year and these events will continue to grow. He was aiming for a 5K PB, but

\[16:44\] fell just short. Lots of people hit PBs though. He was in the second open category, three open races in total, and came towards the back of his race with a 20:33 — congratulations, that's a good time, he's just missed his PB though. But he said the vibes were really good, with all levels of ability catered for. The thing I love though, the medal — great looking medal, everyone got a finisher's medal.

\[17:14\] Oh, sick — that's a good medal. It's nice. Send that one to me so I can put it up. Yeah, so Chase the Five gets the thumbs up from Gareth, so no doubt when it comes back next year it'll be even bigger. The only flag I have on it, as you said last week, is we actually went looking for the results on the day — a few of us, because remember I mentioned Chloe who was running with us last Tuesday up at Gold Coast Run Co, she was running the 5K and we were trying to figure out whether she'd actually beat my brother's time off the parkrun,

\[17:46\] and we were wanting — did you find it? Couldn't find it. Couldn't find anything. So did they have a results page? I don't know, but whatever it was, it wasn't easy to find. We gave up, and we're still chasing. Fair enough. OK, all right — hey, this one's crazy, but it's such a good initiative. It's called the Mallathon, over in Dubai. In August, obviously because of the extreme heat — yes, they have

\[18:18\] — I can't see why this hasn't been done sooner. Their malls are so large, and the Americans have got the same malls, and they've just started running through the mall in the aircon each Sunday before the shopping starts. Come every Sunday now, go to the mall, run your 10K through the mall. What do you reckon? I love it — it's hard to compare. Look, we're here on the Gold

\[18:49\] Coast, and Pacific Fair would be the closest, but that's more of an outdoor mall, so it's not quite replicating the same thing. There's some big Westfields in Adelaide where I grew up, Sydney's got some big ones as well — you could do a good race through Pacific. That made me think though — before Robina Town Centre, long before your time on the Gold Coast, young Liam — Robina Town Centre is massive now, but before it went to whatever stage it's at at the moment, and — I can't even think of the name of where they have the food court and all of that,

\[19:21\] used to be the pantry, yeah, the kitchens — used to be more of an open area before they built it in, and they used to do a mile race out there. Oh, really? Up and down the centre. That's cool. Effectively — you know where the Nike store is? Yep. So if you think of that centre aisle that goes from one end to the other, and you ran that back and forth, there was a mile race in there. That piece — did you have a race? No, I never did, but it's quick enough to run a mile, and all the fast guys would come in and race through Robina Town Centre. That's really cool, and I guess to the

\[19:52\] point with Chase the Five, there's nothing new under the sun, right? All these things have kind of been thought of before, but this made me think — you could have a crack and race a little bit of an urban route, like think of the corners — true, that would make a big difference. Let's blue-sky it, let's throw the butcher's paper up and start planning this out. So some elements you could — I mean, elevators, escalators — you wouldn't make them go on the elevators, you wouldn't make them stand there and wait for that. Why not, the escalators could be like a

\[20:23\] choose-your-own-adventure. I love it — the more I think about it, the more I think an indoor mall marathon would be amazing. So easy to activate too, because from an audio perspective you've got the PA system, so immediately you're bringing a soundtrack to the whole thing. You could put your commentary through there. Brands would love to activate, especially a brand that already has a bricks-and-mortar place within the

\[20:53\] mall. Aid stations might be a bit dangerous because usually it's pretty slick tile — yeah, the aid station, the shoe choice would be a big thing here. There's a lot of corners around, but somewhere like Pacific Fair at Broadbeach, I reckon you could easily do a 2K loop in there. Oh yeah, yeah — not really doubling back, you might have to go through a few junction points, but pretty much not doubling back on yourself, not repeating.

\[21:23\] That's really cool — I wonder if that'd be interesting to have a look on Strava, has anyone claimed Strava segments? Strava, while you're looking it up — are you going to look it up? Yeah, I'll look it up. So I was surprised, when I first saw this Dubai Mall one, I thought it was actually a marathon that ran through there, but it's actually 10K and it's more for community — so 10K each week, or there's a 5K or 2K, similar to a parkrun, but they're doing it through the mall. What a great initiative. No Pacific Fair segments on Strava.

\[21:54\] Well, if someone wants a crown, you know where to go. Were you across YouTube's NFL debut? No, talk to me about it. Well, I come home — I'm just trying to think which day, Saturday or Sunday — whichever day I come home from running, sat on the couch, went to go and look at my usual algorithm on YouTube, and got spammed with the NFL. The reason I got spammed was

\[22:24\] obviously it was a live event — their first live event that they've done on YouTube, but beyond that, there wasn't just one live feed. This is what got me — they'd used MrBeast, all the big YouTubers, IShowSpeed was commentating. So they'd used all their star power, and you could do watch parties with each of the different — there were a couple of, you know, a range of different celebrities there. Now, what was interesting though, was the mainstream media —

\[22:55\] I think it's ESPN, I've been locked out of their newsletter, I went to look at the information and it's all blurred out, so pretty much from memory, I'll try and find the link — ESPN calling them out, saying it's not fair because they don't use the same metrics that TV gets held accountable on. So the metrics were similar, but they're calling out: 'hey, look, new world' — but 16.2 million viewers in the US and another 1.1 million viewers from

\[23:27\] international, people like me just sitting there tuning in. What do you reckon — is this the way, is this going to be the future? I mean, we've seen Netflix — the boxing's coming up on Netflix this weekend. Look, broadcast television isn't what it used to be, and we're seeing that with free-to-air in Australia — just recently there were both free-to-air networks actually campaigning at Canberra together, which shows how seriously they're taking it, when they put down their swords against one another to fight for free-to-air as a whole.

\[23:59\] They campaigned in Canberra over the future of free-to-air television, because more and more, what's happening overseas is happening here in Australia — Fox Sports controls more and more things, more things are moving behind a paywall, and obviously the free-to-air networks are looking for government protection to help assist their future. I mean, it's the Wild West a bit, really, the coverage of all these sports, and ultimately the governing bodies of them are out — they're just wanting

\[24:30\] whatever's going to put the biggest dollar into their back pockets. The cheques are so massive, particularly in those NFL sports, in American sports — NFL, NBA, MLB — the money, the cheques that they're banking for the rights to broadcast their sports is otherworldly. And ultimately they're making so much money — if you think, in a perfect world, that these sports want to put the fan first, they don't. They don't.

\[25:00\] They are making so much money, it doesn't matter if their fans are complaining — they're making so much money, and it's not like the money dips. The only way fans can vote is with their feet or with their eyeballs, and what these sports have figured out is: we can do what we want, the fans want to watch these sports, they will go and find it wherever it is. So in the end, it comes down to money — I don't think that's just the reality of where

\[25:30\] broadcast television is heading, particularly in the sporting space, because we talk about appointment television these days — appointment television doesn't really exist like it used to, because now you can watch whatever you want on demand for the most part. Occasionally a series like Game of Thrones comes along which is appointment television, because the episode will only drop on a certain day — not many TV series will do that anymore. So these days the only thing that's appointment-set is the news — people can get their news wherever they want, or sport,

\[26:00\] because sport is the one thing you can't watch in advance, or really on replay, because it gets out so quickly. So by that metric, sport is arguably the most valuable thing on television these days. Let's move that way — I mean, Seven with the AFL on the weekend, which we'll get to in a minute — I went to turn the TV on to go and watch it, and it's been so long since I updated my antenna for the digital network, my Channel Seven

\[26:30\] wasn't there, like, obviously I needed an update, so I put on whatever the smart TV system is and went and watched it on the Seven app, yeah — of course. So even then, it's not like you have to be live, you don't need the old-school TV at all if you want to consume it. But this one, what I did while you were chatting, I was looking up — did you need a premium subscription? To YouTube, and it's saying watch NFL online — now, this is America.

\[27:00\] It said you can cancel any time, you needed a free trial — so if anyone had, because I'm on premium and it just came up — but if you couldn't watch it for some reason, let us know, because I'd be interested, because that's the way they're driving people to a premium subscription. That's what Netflix does — if you want to watch the boxing this weekend, you've got to join up to Netflix, and once you're there, we've got you. Yeah, exactly. Some people watch it once and then get out, but the majority of people kind of get lazy and just leave it there. So yeah, interesting times, Liam — the media

\[27:31\] space is an interesting one. Did anybody come back to us about our running series idea? No, no. OK, no love, still there? No, still dangling it, still dangling it. Wouldn't you love to see Courtney run with the marathon monks — where was it, Japan? China, yeah, China, it was up in Osaka. Hey, one call-out — the great thing about Noosa, what we're talking, going to be talking a bit about Noosa Tri again — yep, our Saturday eps are generally more run-sport focused.

\[28:02\] Mm-hmm, the great thing with triathlon is everyone who does a triathlon loves talking running too, yeah, it's a big part of it. But what I wanted to shout out, because we missed it when we recorded our first steps for Noosa, is: if you're going up to the Noosa Triathlon, and you're worried about the open water swim — saltwater swimming, saltwater swimmers — they've got the Wicked Wednesday. So you've heard me during the series, if you've been a long-time listener, talk about going down to Tully Creek and having a

\[28:32\] swim. So they're coming back on Wednesday the 17th — now I'm away a little bit, but when I get back in October I'll be down there every Wednesday as well, jumping in. There's no better place to go — he's the great man, Ty, because he says 'ducks', yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Carla Gilbert, one of the coaches — so pretty much one of the best, one of the best ever women, Ironman — yes, Ironwoman, ducks, yep, best coaching voice, one of the

\[29:05\] best coaching voices in the land. I love being in her group because she perks up your morning. There wouldn't be many kids who've come out of the good high-school swimmers in the last decade that she hasn't had something to do with. And then the final coach to add to it is Adam Pyne, ex-Olympian — Adam Pyne, yeah, Pyney, so Pyney jumps in, yeah, great — he's a little bit quieter than Ducks, but he makes the sessions harder — where it's the Olympic — he's the Olympian, you just want to, yeah, yeah,

\[29:35\] yeah. For those people not Gold Coast-based, yep, go find your open water crew — because again, as someone who struggles with it, and next week you'll hear us talk a bit about swimming with Dan — that's right — as someone who's trained for a lot of my triathlons just in the pool, open water training is worth ten pool-lane sessions. Yeah, well, if you're like me, yeah. So Wednesday's just an easy one if you want to change it

\[30:05\] up, if you've only been swimming in the pool. Yeah, casuals can go down and have a look on the website and see what it is — the Suns also get a few — the Suns also get down there towards the end of the week, that's part of their recovery-fitness. And so that leads me to my question on the Suns — bloody great game to see them get through. Did you get the big call, have you got the big job? Saturday night at home — I've just finished doing the sideline for the Titans, Titans got the win over the West Tigers, they've avoided the wooden spoon, it was Kieran Foran's farewell, the debut of — do you remember

\[30:38\] Marcus Bai, the PNG winger? No, Marcus Bai, legend of PNG rugby league, right — his son, Cooper Bai, made his debut for the Titans on the weekend, 18 years of age, my God — gun. He's the same size as Tino Fa'asuamaleaui, 18 years of age and he's just, if you said 'go design me the perfect rugby league player', he's what you'd build physically. Do you know where he went to school? Did he go — is he a Gold Coast

\[31:08\] — yeah, did he go to Keebra Park, I think, well, I know — I think he was attached to the Burleigh Bears, yeah — OK, so highly likely Keebra Park pumped him out here on the Gold Coast. He's a Marymount boy, Marymount, which is where my daughter goes to school. So there you go, he is — I mean Ben Teo couldn't stop raving about him, he's like a future captain of the club. Anyway, finished that, got home, watching the game, halfway through the game and the Suns are looking good.

\[31:40\] I get the email from my footy boss — roster's out, I'm calling the Brisbane Lions' home final, week one. So, you've got it before all the Suns have even won, before I know the result. Yep, I'm not — I know I'm going to be at the Gabba next Saturday night calling the Brisbane game, whoever they're playing. And so I'm sitting there in the second half going, I'm going to get to call Lions-Suns, this is amazing. And then what happened, happened. Oh yeah, and so for the last quarter I'm sitting there just going, I've

\[32:12\] gone through the phases of going 'oh no, oh no, oh my God', and then I literally had this thought at one point, which was: I don't really want to call Lions-Dockers. I do, but I want to call Lions-Suns so badly that if I have to call Lions-Dockers I'm going to be a bit disappointed. And then what happened, happened — Mac Andrew kicks that goal, and Dave Swallow kicks what turned out to be the winning point. I've got to call it.

\[32:42\] I still remember my first game of football that I ever called, which was Suns-Giants, ironically in Canberra off the TV — I still remember the biggest game I've ever called, which was the prelim final two years ago. I went down to the SCG, and it was the Swans-Collingwood game — the one Collingwood won to then make the grand final against Brisbane Lions. I got to call that with the great Brian Taylor, and that's the biggest game I've ever got to call. This is the most exciting game I'll ever get to call. Oh, for Queenslanders — but even personally, the Lions as the

\[33:12\] defending premiers taking on the Suns in this fairy-tale run into their first finals campaign — for me, living on the Gold Coast, to drive up the M1 to the Gabba on Saturday — today, for when people might be listening to this — I can't wait. Jack Riewoldt, I'll be calling with — I've called with Jack half a dozen times now, he's fantastic — Simon Black, Brownlow medallist, three-time premiership player, and I get to work for the first time with Isaac Smith, Norm Smith medallist, premiership player for the Hawks and for the Cats. I've never worked with Isaac

\[33:42\] before, I've heard nothing but awesome stuff, I am beyond excited. So who drives — for those who don't know how AFL commentary works, who drives the programme? Well, so Jack's the host — Jack comes up from Melbourne, and Jack's a pro, so he's easy to call with. For those I've talked a little bit about how AFL commentary works — it's a bit of tap, back and forth, and Jack and I, we have a very similar approach to it all, which is that there's no need for anyone to try and grab

\[34:14\] the spotlight — when the commentary sounds good, everyone looks good, right? You lift each other up, you create space for one another in these things. Jack will host, I'll fill in the gaps where Jack needs me to. Simon Black — Simon Black literally needs no introduction, especially with the Lions playing — one of the greatest midfielders of all time, calling his Brisbane Lions in a game where they could be underdogs — really, the Suns come in with all the momentum into this game.

\[34:44\] And then Isaac Smith, who's one of the best finals players we've seen in the last decade or two, so to have that calibre of crew up there for Saturday night is going to be just unbelievable. Sunday's going to be tough for me, because we'll probably get off there at about 11 and then I have to get home, which is an hour and a bit drive, and it takes me another hour to wind down — it really takes me a while to wind down after these calls. So Sunday will be a long day,

\[35:14\] but I'm beyond excited, this is going to be amazing. And they're wearing pink, which I love as well — what's the Suns going with the pink for? Well, they just decided to bring back the pink — the Brisbane Lions is a difficult uniform, they — need to sell some merch? No, I don't think it's that, I just think it's — look, probably, we've said the governing bodies of these sports do everything for money, the clubs are no different, they want to make money too. I actually think the Lions jumper — having a look at it today — it's a difficult jumper from a clash perspective, because it's got maroon and yellow and blue

\[35:46\] in it, and the Suns' red, crimson red isn't that distinct from it, and their alternative clash guernsey is yellow and blue, so it's almost too similar. So the pink is actually probably the best clash option, but I'm looking forward — what do you think of that Indigenous — I think it was an Indigenous jersey for the Lions, did you see that from the other week? They looked like they were all running around with their bum cracks out — oh, that was in the AFLW. Yeah, oh look, you know, hey, your

\[36:18\] best laid plans and all that, you don't foresee that when you see it on the table, do you? No, when they were doing the design, they did not think 'what would this look like if someone's being tackled on the ground, metres away.' Yeah, exactly. So now, look, beyond excited about this Saturday night. And look, here's the other thing for me, from a work perspective, doing a Gold Coast radio show — if the Suns win and they get to go down to Melbourne to play Collingwood

\[36:48\] in the prelim final, I then start to organise my life about potentially going to a grand final. If they make a grand final, I'm going. Have you been to a grand final? I've been to two — I went to the Adelaide Crows-St Kilda grand final back in '97 or '98, whichever year it was, just as a kid with my dad, and then I also went to the Giants grand final against the Richmond Tigers, where they got absolutely flogged. I remember that — it was the late-holidays, leaf-flogged — this is when I first started needing to deal with AFL a little

\[37:20\] bit, and I was like, what is this, that was ugly, that was boring — I think I said to my son, actually, every time there's a goal he could have a Tim Tam or something, and it's funny what you remember about it — he now has diabetes. One more, one more question on this — as we're sitting here talking, because we're on the Gold Coast, we're on a Gold Coast radio station, I'm impartial when it comes to the teams, I have to deal with across a lot of the AFL teams,

\[37:50\] but it is our home team — yep, Queensland is our home, it's our market, it's a Q-clash, it's exciting. How do you commentate, do you have a favourite? No, how do you do it, how do you do it well — well, pull the curtain back: I'm from Adelaide, I'm a Port supporter. Yeah, I grew up supporting Port Adelaide, and not in the SANFL, but once they came into the AFL in '96 I chose them as my team, I was in year six at school and that is my team. And when they won the premiership in 2004,

\[38:20\] and I lean into Simon Black about this all the time, because Brisbane lost to Port Adelaide that year, going for four on the bounce. Yeah, I'm a Port supporter, but I do the same thing on the radio in the mornings — what I think and feel is irrelevant, it's about the person driving in the car or listening on the app that matters, right, and what they want reflected is the excitement, the moment, right? So if Brisbane have a big moment on Saturday night, that's a moment that needs to be high and up, you reflect that.

\[38:54\] And if it's low, you just pace out the talk, and if Gold Coast have a moment, you reflect that. And I hear some broadcasts where it's really obvious who the commentator supports, or who the commentator, whether knowingly or unknowingly, is supporting, by the way they're commentating. I think you can tell sometimes — not all the time, the best you can't tell — but some you can. And in rugby league as well, you can really hear it

\[39:26\] when the commentator would prefer their allegiances lie with one of the teams. This must be hard — it must be hard. The good thing is here on the podcast, we don't need to do that, no allegiance. Can we talk — Right, can we talk about our personal running for a moment? Do you want to jump into your running? Can we jump into this? No, no, no, because I want to talk specifically about our running, because we ran together, sort of, for the first time in a long time. Well, kind of, but not — kind of but not, so you told

\[39:59\] me — I had intentions to go out and join in with The Spit crew at Main Beach with Eddie Gordon Small, but I hadn't run with them for a long time. Yep. And then you told me — we changed your mind, we said, well, we changed your mind, we're going to go down to Kirra Park run instead — you saved me half an hour's drive. So I just organised to meet you down at Kirra parkrun — let's just cut the story short, we told you we'd be at Kirra parkrun. Yep. What time does Kirra parkrun start? 7am. Yeah, they were running late too, I reckon they started about 7:06\. Yeah, I was going to say, you were still late. I was still late. So we saw you as we were running off.

\[40:30\] We actually — we didn't run together, no, no, no, we didn't run together, we were in the same parkrun, we said hello, we're in the same vicinity. You didn't see me on the way out, but you saw me on the way back. But Kirra parkrun — I want to get your thoughts on it, because had you run Kirra before? Oh, I hadn't, no, I don't — didn't run parkrun rarely, we'd go to parkrun, but I've run along there plenty of times, and I think I've run some harder trails along there. Parkrun's great, yeah, but that's all you need to say. Yeah, if you want to go somewhere to run with people on a Saturday, have some consistency

\[41:02\] to be able to go — am I improving, what am I doing, whatever else — it's great. And Kirra is flat and fast, however it's not 5K, is it? No, short or long? Short, by how much? How much did you pull up short? Well, I don't know, I don't think it's about 4.9, but that was common across all of us. OK, so I've known it, because everyone always says oh, Kirra's a fast one, maybe. Well, so it turned into a reason — it turned for me, the session turned into, as I said, I woke up late, I was

\[41:33\] running late, and the 5K it takes me to get there actually turned into a much faster 5K than I would have liked. I would have liked to have run down there at about five-fifteen to five-thirty pace, just cruising and warming up — I ended up running down there at about four-forty-five to four-forty pace, much faster than I would have liked. Jumped in, finished the run, clocked my 5K at 20:22, which I was quite happy with, and then did a little kilometre-and-a-half cool-down. Yeah, but I guess the thing I'm trying to measure now, because I'm doing a lot more speed work than

\[42:05\] I'm used to — maybe too much, I think I might be doing a little bit too much speed work, because that week — so last week running for me, I did a Deek's Quarters effort, I did a fartlek-like effort, and then I did that Saturday morning, which is probably one speed session too many. You need to think about what Benita would say, yeah, yeah, I needed to think about what Benita would say last week, because — what happened to you? So I had no intention of running that, I'd been running, like we said last week, I'd been running all week and moving pretty well. And then my brother said, oh, can you come and pace us at park

\[42:36\] run? I said, what pace, him? Three-twenties. And I'm like, well, we just ran Thursday morning on the grass, around a bit of a cross-country course down at Pizzey Park, running three-twenties or something pretty quick. I'm like, yeah, we'll come along. Oh mate, my body — my body didn't agree, it didn't want to get up on Saturday morning, and I still went along, and like I said, I should have chanted out to Benita, because I got excited and should have just bloody stayed

\[43:07\] home and gone and jogged, and I would've been fine. So nothing wrong, but yeah, my body was a bit angry at me. And yeah, this week I'm just kind of cruising along again. I want to come back to your brother very quickly, but we should say, as well, as an update for everybody out there playing along — really sad news for Andy Buchanan, our mate, who's had to pull out of the world champs. He's out, yeah. So obviously — what did he say, he was going to give the stress reaction a week and then have a run and see if he could go, but he's obviously had a

\[43:38\] run — the doctor said three weeks, and he said, I'll give it — the doctor said, why don't you give it a week, and now he's made the decision that he's not going to be able to compete. I think that's a good decision, yeah, for the long run, you know — he's still got his best marathon ahead of him. Yeah, so you don't want to — you'd hate to see him on the sidelines any longer than he needs to be because he tried to rush it for the world champs. Yeah, and it sounds like if it was only three weeks off, that was the prescription anyway. Yeah, it sounds like he'll get through this pretty quickly.

\[44:08\] Can we go back to Rick, your brother, for a moment? Yep, because I had to chat with him after we did the parkrun — what did he end up running? A 16:50\. So the Atkinsons can run — it's not just you but the Ricks too. Rick goes all right — having a chat though, and it's not a PB for him, and I was just chatting to him, saying, are you happy with the run, whatever, and he said to me, he's like, I can always pull the weight lever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's got the ability to drop. And I said, what do you mean?

\[44:40\] He's like, well, if I really want to get to my PB, I'll just lose some weight. And I said, well, how much? Because there's not much of him. What are you weighing in at? He's like, well, when I raced my PB in my marathon, I was at 63, which is extreme, and he said he's at 69 right now. And so he reckons that — and he said it so casually — well, I'll just pull the weight lever. He's done it, he's done it for a few years now, where he's just been able to drop. So what does he do?

\[45:11\] I don't know if he wants me to give away his secrets — oh, OK, OK. No, no, what he does, I can tell you to a degree — it's just about consistency of eating. He finds the calories that he obviously needs to stay, not injured, and as he ramps up it's progressive, it's not like over a few weeks — as the training builds, and as he gets more towards the goal and the work gets harder, you start shedding the kilos.

\[45:42\] But it's just watching, simply watching what you eat. Yeah, the problem is that's bloody hard when you love food. Yeah, that's why — I said to him, I said, I love how you make the weight lever sound like an easy thing to pull. I've got to find the weight lever first, it's a hard thing to find the lever. Yeah, unfortunately it's behind the fridge where I keep all the things I like to eat, so. Yeah, hey, I'm talking about Andy and his injury, and you've been called out,

\[46:12\] Liam, we need to do a fact check — we've got enough listeners now that are fact-checking us more often than not. Alex Baker, Alex Baker, Liam, he's written and said, Liam, get your facts right. Oh no, what did I do? Tom Do Canto was the second Aussie home in the Sydney Marathon. All right, so — what, so he said — you're big enough now that we need to fact-check you, or we are going to call you out. OK, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair.

\[46:44\] So hold on, as long as he's not coming after me — no, he's coming after me, yeah. All right, so, I think you said — I've got to see this, Brett Robinson, I said Brett Robinson, so I'm bringing it up here — yeah, so Tom was second, which is a crack run, I'm bringing it up in front of you here — oh, hold on, no, he said Brett Robinson came third — yes — oh, so he — oh, no, he said Tom — yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, yes — no, no, no, so —

\[47:15\] oh, this is the Australian championships, right, I couldn't see the filter. Right, so we had Haftu Strintzos — am I saying that right? — think so — Haftu Strintzos won the Australian championships, Thomas Do Canto came second, and Brett Robinson came third in Australia. There you go, Alex, hands up, Alex — he's taken it, I apologise Alex, I will be better. And you know what, it's good for me to know that we've hit the point where we now have to fact-check. Do you know what's impressive — Kieran Perkins came seventh, not the swimmer,

\[47:47\] in the running — that's just wow, that's impressive from Kieran Perkins, two-time Olympic gold medallist, coming seventh in the Australian Championships of running. OK Alex, hands up, accountability, that's what we're about. So we've got one from Brit at physio, this is from Brit — yep, oh cool, come in from Brit now, bit of a — she wants us to have a discussion, right. So a while back now, I'm just going to think, what's the race that goes along the Currumbin border track — was it the Border Bolt? Border Bolt, it was on,

\[48:17\] and she hadn't done it — she said I haven't done a trail race for a few years, she went and did it, and was very surprised by one factor that's changed in three years, she said — the majority of the people, as she was running, were running with headphones on and failed to say hello, didn't acknowledge anyone. What do you reckon of this? So in trail racing, you know, the trail's always been that area of running where it's been quite fun,

\[48:51\] and everyone's a little bit, you know, part of the community, I'd say, and if you're out on the trail you say g'day to whoever it is, and if you don't know them — I mean, racing's a bit different, but if you're on the trails just running on the weekend, you're probably not going to see too many people, and it's nice to say g'day. What do you reckon about this, people running with — so it's obviously new, new runners coming into these races, but not even acknowledging the other runners, and then there's the other area

\[49:23\] that comes into this, which is safety. Let's address the safety element first. Yep. Personally, my opinion is don't run with headphones on the trails, don't run with headphones on the trails — it's, I can't remember his name, a fella with a big bushy red beard who sort of — Jesus, I think he works at — not literally Jesus, but yeah — no, it's not Jesus, not Jesus, no —

\[49:53\] he used to work with Anderson's, or — he used to work with Anderson's in Burleigh, what's the outdoor trail shop, Wild Earth. Wild Earth, I think he worked at Wild Earth for a stint, a semi-professional trail runner. I remember running with him briefly, for some reason, when I first moved up to the Gold Coast, along the front for a while, and I was chatting with him about trail running, and he said to me, and it stuck with me, because he said, I usually wear headphones if I run on the road or flats, but he's like, I never wear them on the trails, because it's an extra

\[50:24\] sense — I need my trail sense about me when I'm running, he said, I like to feel and hear and do all that sort of stuff, a little bit wishy, a little bit woo-woo for what you and I usually talk about, but I was like, OK, that makes sense. I agree that on the trail, particularly if you're running with lots of people around, it's — I don't want to say you're responsible, but it can be a bit dangerous if you disappear off into your own world and you're not paying attention to what's around you on that rough, uneven surface.

\[50:55\] Yeah, well, the thing with trail is if you're coming up behind someone — this is probably more a multi-loop, or you're just running quick at home and there's multiple people on the single track, and you're coming up behind them and need to get around them — you can't hear them, it makes it pretty difficult. Britt's not going to like me saying this — oh, here we go — but I run the majority of my trails now with headphones in, I just take one out. Yeah, we talked about this

\[51:25\] before — it's like when you go cycling. However, I've never run a race with headphones in, I've never — why's that, why do you draw the line at a race? I mean, I'm questioning it in my head right now, because it would actually be good — sometimes music helps you run, right, we've talked about this too, you get rhythm, and sometimes when you just get your mind into the music, background music's good. I've never worn them in a race because I've just been brought up and taught, you don't race in headphones.

\[51:57\] It's kind of weird to me that you'd go and race in headphones, but the fact we're so used to now wearing headphones, I can see why people are branching out with them on. So I'm thinking, away from the safety side of things — the run boom, you know, you knock down the dominoes, running becomes more popular, more people get involved, more people who don't have a background in running, which is great, we love it, then more people start to run marathons.

\[52:27\] Endurance becomes a bigger thing, and as we know, you and I agree, trail running is more fun, right? Yep, running on the trails is more interesting than just running on the roads all the time. So naturally you're going to get a segment of those people new to running, new to endurance events, new to marathons, going 'oh, I'll try trail running', so it's a flow-on effect, a trickle-down effect. Then you get these people trickling onto trails, and they bring all those other parts of running with them into the

\[52:57\] trails, and headphone running is a big part of that. Do you hope that they take the headphones out after a certain amount of time on the trails? Maybe, or maybe trail running just changes. And again, Britt's not going to like to hear this, but maybe that perfect, pristine — and I love it too, Britt, it's one of my favourite things about trail running, you never bump into someone who's having a bad day out on the trails, and there's always that acknowledgement, whether it's a verbal hello or a nod, whatever,

\[53:27\] you always get it. Maybe that's just an unfortunate byproduct of the running boom, that that part of trail running disappears. Yeah, it's interesting, I don't like it, I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I was nearly going to say the onus would be on the race director — I agree, to make a decision or a recommendation about headphones for safety, but I think that would actually deter some people from doing that event, because I'd think there's enough people out there

\[53:59\] who are running for their own reasons, they enjoy it, and part of that is, to get through that distance — because obviously this one was a shorter race, but when you get up into those more ultra distances and you're out there for hours on end by yourself, that's a whole different scenario, and I can see why headphones at that point can be beneficial. So maybe it's not the original reasons people run trails for, but I'd like to think — I know I'll run with headphones on trails at some point, different points, but I'd like to think I'd

\[54:31\] still do the head nod, the acknowledgement, the smile, the wave, whatever it takes. OK, so this has got me thinking — the last comment, about not even acknowledging or noticing another runner — the issue then has got nothing to do with the headphones. If you're not seeing other runners coming, you're not running with your eyes up, right — if you're looking down at your feet and not even having your eyes up, do yourself a favour and start looking up the trail a little bit, and I can

\[55:02\] guarantee you'll start moving faster. Ah, here we go. Nothing to do with — here we go. And then when you're looking up the trail a little further, seeing what's coming, you can anticipate it, it also puts you in a better running position. Now we're talking. And then you'll also be able to see someone, to say hello. So do yourself a favour, OK, and we'll help everyone. So here we go, we found a solution, Britt, we found a race solution for these things. Race directors don't need to make a call to ban headphones,

\[55:34\] what they do instead, as part of their briefing, is encourage looking up the trail — headphones in, do what you want, you make your decision, but what we do encourage — maybe that's the thing, but we ban you from looking at your feet. So we can't ban your headphones, you make a decision, but we do ban you from looking at your feet, in a fun way. What we encourage you to do is make sure you're looking up the trail, not only because it's a great social thing to do, but also because it's a safer, more efficient way to run — it'll make you run better. Same thing

\[56:06\] if you're going downhill, you don't want to be looking at your feet at where you're stepping on the route or the rock — you know, it's proprioception, you should be — you want to be looking ahead to know what's coming, so you can foresee it. That's it. OK, so there we go, we fixed it — you don't have to bend the headphones, you have to bend on not looking at your feet while you run. Yep, there we go. Now, on our Road to Noosa series, well, it's going to take us a while, the way it's structured we're not going to get to the bike for a little while, so we had a question come in — have a listen to this one. OK fellas, looking at doing my

\[56:39\] first triathlon, and I've never ridden a bike besides as a kid on a BMX — can you please include in your Road to Noosa series some tips on what beginners need to look for when buying that first bike or second bike, because at the moment I'm like a 60-year-old in an Apple store, I've just got no clue. So Jared Smith heard that, and

\[57:09\] I think it was a good one, because if anyone's looking at getting into their first triathlon, my response was, I've got so many questions, because you can't just answer it easily. So the first thing I wanted to know was, what's your budget? Second thing I wanted to know was, do you plan to actually ride that bike after the Noosa Triathlon? And if you do, are you riding it just for fitness, or do you plan on doing more triathlons? Those three questions start to dictate what I'd suggest the bike should be, because if you're literally

\[57:41\] going to just ride it at Noosa and then get rid of it, I'd nearly be inclined to say hire a bike. You can get a pretty good bike hired, and then you don't have to worry about flicking it on. You're laughing — no, I've just remembered a story from my first Noosa about hiring a bike. Do you want to hear it now, or save it for the bike episode? Let's save that one for the bike episode, remind me to tell you — or, suffice to say — did it break? That's what I want to know — suffice to say, yeah, it did. So Jared, if you're going to

\[58:11\] hire a bike, there are lessons to be learnt, and I'll share those with you in the bike episode. The second one, around fitness or doing more triathlons — if you're just going to ride for fitness, get a nice comfortable road bike, your body will thank you, just a normal standard road bike, you don't need anything fancy. But if you're thinking 'I'm going to get the bug at Noosa and I want to go on and race, build through triathlons', whether it's eventually getting a triathlon-specific bike, because that's going to be quicker, and if you're going to continue to race Noosa or other triathlons,

\[58:44\] you're going to thank yourself in the long run. I'll give you some context, Jared, as someone who was once in your boat doing a first-ever Noosa triathlon — and Courtney's right, budget is your first thing, and then if you've got an idea of whether this is a one-off, a medium-term or a long-term thing, let that inform your decision. And then the other thing is, go and speak to a bike shop — if you're looking at buying new, and if you get to that situation, go speak to a bike shop, they're pretty good, the guys at the bike shop know what they're talking about, that's the best place to go, 100%. But my bike, the only one I've

\[59:18\] ever owned, my road bike that I've raced all my Noosas with, is a Cannondale CAAD10\. It's probably a size too big for me, I bought it off a guy my wife used to work with ten years ago, I paid $1,500 for it. So I've worked it out — it's cost me $150 per Noosa. After Noosa it disappears into the garage for ten months, and then every August it comes out of the garage and I

\[59:48\] ride it for, you know, two months of panic training before the race itself, and it does the trick. Do you snap a chain every year when you get back on? No, no, I've never snapped a chain, in fact I have to put new tubes in and all that, and all the rest of it. The funny thing about bike riding is it's a slippery slope on how much money you can spend on these things. But Scott Anderson always used to say he could — give me a $50 bike with a $200 pair of aero bars and I'll smash

\[01:00:20\] anybody with a $5,000 bike — it's about the legs, not the bike. Well, you can, but having said that, when we get Dan in here, I reckon nowadays it's unfortunately a little bit about the bike, there are some slippery bikes out there. Well, and in fact, let's give a little clue into the next episode that's dropping — you can buy speed. You can buy speed, yeah, that's a tagline I feel like we're going to hear a bit from Dan, especially when we get to the bike-riding episode. You can buy speed. Well, it goes for shoes too, doesn't it? Shoes, and as you'll find out in next

\[01:00:52\] Wednesday's episode, it goes for swimming too — listen, you can buy a bit of speed in swimming these days, you can buy — so if you've got deep pockets, Jared, fill your boots, go buy yourself a good Noosa time. If your pockets aren't quite that deep, maybe just figure out what the future of your triathlon looks like. But again, speak to the guys in the bike shops, they can be trusted. All right, that's all we've got for today. I'm still bloody pumped, because of potentially going down to Melbourne to get around the Suns

\[01:01:23\] playing Collingwood in a prelim final. But aside from that, make sure you tell your friends and family who might be into triathlon, or competing at Noosa this year for the first time, to jump on board the Road to Noosa Triathlon series, and we'll see you next week. See you next week.